[mcsjgs]

From Macrumors:

Mac OS X 10.3.2 build 7D15

Saturday November 22, 2003 12:52 AM

Apple has released a new Mac OS X 10.3.2 build to developers.

Changes include File sharing, directory services, font management, FileVault, USB, Graphics drivers, networking, AFP Server, WebDAV, PostScript printing and International text.

[sanity assassin]

35MB in size this time too. Also read about 10.3.5 and how it will be quite a substantial upgrade with new GUI elements. That was rumoured just before Panther was released, looks like it could be true.

[Landos Mustache]

Originally posted by sanity assassin:
Also read about 10.3.5 and how it will be quite a substantial upgrade with new GUI elements.

Where the heck did you hear this and what is 10.3.5?

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
Where the heck did you hear this and what is 10.3.5?

Hi,
I've got 10.3.2 here, but not going to install it till it's officially released, cause I haven't got a Panther test install system and only running it on my main machine.

The GUI changes for Panther was talked about just before the final version came out, but AFAIK, Apple held them back for a major update somewhere along the lines. Then I just read on AppleInsider that Apple were planning a 10.3.5, or something like that which would contain those GUI changes.

Here's the snippet from AI, and the link to the page, it's about a 1/3 the way down.

regards.


"Meanwhile, the computer maker is reportedly working on pieces of a major upgrade to Mac OS X Panther, which is said to be released as Mac OS X 10.3.5 sometime in the future. Significant component updates and minor interface enhancements have been rumored for this 'larger' Panther OS update."


Sorry, forgot to post the link.

http://www.appleinsider.com/news/

[mcsjgs]

In looking at the Bill of Materials for the first version of the 10.3.2 update (7D12) which was linked in a previous thread, it looks like the next upgrade will affect:

Font Book
Terminal
File Server
Help Viewer
Chooser (?)
Bluetooth
Clock
Displays (many Vendor ID overrides)
ATI Radeon
ATI Rage 128
Audio (something called Apple Screamer audio?)
GeForce
AOAHAL (?)
Firewire
SCSI
USB
NVDANV10Hal (and 20HAL, 30HAL) (?)
Virtual Audio
Webdav
Java
Webkit
Sound
Disk Images

There are many other things affecting Core Services, but these were ones I could identify separately.

Others wiser than I will undoubtedly have corrections and further observations. The full BOM would have to split into 8 separate posts to fit the limits of uploading messages here.

[gorickey]

Looking forward to the release....

[mcsjgs]

Found some more info on AppleInsider:

7D12 About Box

The new version will include updates to USB, Graphics drivers, networking, AFP Server, WebDAV and International text, Apple reportedly told testers in the release notes accompanying the build. More specifically, the update patches Panthers Font Book, Terminal, Apple File Server, Help Viewer, Language Chooser, and System UI Server applications.

Version 10.3.2 also includes significant changes to Panther's audio, display, and graphics components -- including updates to several ATI Radeon, ATI Rage and nVidia GeForce graphics drivers. In addition, the release will patch a number of system frameworks, developers tell AppleInsider, including Admin, AppKit, Application Services, Carbon, CoreServices, Bluetooth, DiskImages, Java Virtual Machine, MediaKit, vecLib and WebKit.


Hope this clarifies my previous post.

[eScrib]

Anyone know what kind of changes the video driver updates are making?

I'm having serious display problems on my dual 533 G4 w/ GF2mx video card. Images in preview and iPhoto are all washed out. Finder widgets colors are all messed up. This has never been an issue prior to Panther.

I've pulled RAM, eliminated all peripherals, etc... Did a clean install. Nothing.

I haven't seeen anyone else having these types of issues, so this concerns me that this will go unfixed.

[mcsjgs]

I'm just guessing, but it looks as if people with older video cards will get some relief as well as better drivers for all video cards. I don't know how this will affect your problem.

Apple has taken some serious grief from columnists about Panther not supporting any video cards with ROM dates before March 2001. Jaguar did, and the change left many with serious problems.

[eScrib]

Originally posted by mcsjgs:
I'm just guessing, but it looks as if people with older video cards will get some relief as well as better drivers for all video cards. I don't know how this will affect your problem.

Apple has taken some serious grief from columnists about Panther not supporting any video cards with ROM dates before March 2001. Jaguar did, and the change left many with serious problems.

Interesting...

My machine was built in early 2001...

[mcsjgs]

From Thinksecret.com:

Apple seeds new 10.3.2, Xcode 1.1 builds

By Nick dePlume, Publisher and Editor in Chief
November 24, 2003

Apple on Friday seeded a new build of Mac OS X 10.3.2 to developers, as well as a new version of Xcode 1.1.

The company provided testers with build 7D15 of 10.3.2, less than a week after releasing the update's first seed, build 7D12. The download was 34.1MB in size.

According to Apple, "areas of change" in the 10.3.2 update include International text, font management, FileVault, networking, graphics drivers, file sharing, directory services, USB, AFP Server, PostScript printing, and WebDAV. No known issues were specified.

"Please report any issues you may encounter in a timely manner," Apple told testers in a seed note, suggesting that the 10.3.2 update is nearing public release. "Within a week of this seed would be very much appreciated."

Apple also seeded build 7K109 of Xcode 1.1, a 14.6MB update to Panther's developer tools. We firstdetailed the updates in Xcode 1.1 on November 13, after Apple seeded build 7K104.

As for build 7K109, Xcode 1.1 project files are "fully compatible" with Xcode 1.0.x projects, Apple said in a seed note. Build 7K109 installs Xcode IDE 292.0, Xcode Core 292.0, and ToolSupport 292.0, according to the build's about box.

Apple also described a number of changes since build 7K105, including improvements to build system, debugger, file editing, find, SCM, and other tweaks. "No issues surfaced in seed release testing," Apple said.

Sources also said that Apple has seeded build 7D14 of Mac OS X Server 10.3.2.

[MasonMcD]

"Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate." Folding seems clear; you might fold a card to fit in an envelope, or a pocket. But you're not supposed crease these cards; that would jam the machine. Punch cards aren't to be used in your ways, for your purposes, but for those of the company that issued them.

"Spindle" is the word that most confuses people today. Spindling is an old filing system; a clerk would have a spindle, an upright spike on his or her desk, and would impale each piece of paper on it as he or she finished with it. When the spindle was full, you'd run a piece of string through the holes, tie up the bundle, and ship it off to the archives. (The custom still survives in some restaurants; the cashier spindles the bills as customers pay.) But you shouldn't spindle the cards: they are part of someone else's system of paperwork, not your own; they demand special attention.

[Back up 15 and punt]

Originally posted by eScrib:
Anyone know what kind of changes the video driver updates are making?

I'm having serious display problems on my dual 533 G4 w/ GF2mx video card. Images in preview and iPhoto are all washed out. Finder widgets colors are all messed up. This has never been an issue prior to Panther.

I've pulled RAM, eliminated all peripherals, etc... Did a clean install. Nothing.

I haven't seeen anyone else having these types of issues, so this concerns me that this will go unfixed.

I run a GF2MX AGP card on my dual 450 and it runs just fine under 10.3.1. Are you sure you don't have something else wrong?

[eScrib]

Originally posted by Back up 15 and punt:
I run a GF2MX AGP card on my dual 450 and it runs just fine under 10.3.1. Are you sure you don't have something else wrong?

Well, after some further investigation it seems that my monitor isn't compatible with Panther. It has no issues with any other OS (classic, public beta, X, X.1 and X.2). But Panther... I dunno. I swapped with a different monitor and my issues are gone.

http://www.eas.purdue.edu/~eribble/video.jpg


No calibration will save me. Trust me, I've tried.

[mcsjgs]

"Spindle" is the word that most confuses people today.

Thanks for clearing that up. Now I'll have to get a new tagline. Glad to see that someone other than myself remembers "back in the day".

[SMacTech]

Originally posted by mcsjgs:
. Glad to see that someone other than myself remembers "back in the day".

Back in the day, eh. I have trouble with yesterday!

[mcsjgs]

From Microsoftwatch.com:

Monday, November 24, 2003

Mac OS X 'Panther' Server Due for Update
By_Nick Ciarelli

Sources report that Apple Computer is handing out Version 10.3.2 of its server OS to developers.

Apple Computer Inc. is readying a minor update to Mac OS X Server that will deliver a grab bag of system enhancements and bug fixes, sources said.

The Mac maker last week provided developers with a pre-release seed of Version 10.3.2, an update to the server counterpart of Apple's "Panther" OS.

Labeled "build 7D14" of Panther Server, the download comprised more than 45MB, sources told Microsoft Watch.

Apple reportedly specified some of the update's enhancements in a seed note provided to testers. Sources said the server update will improve the Server Admin and Workgroup Manager applications as well as the QTSS Publisher and Network Image Utility. 10.3.2 will also bolster Kerberos support for AFP services and strengthen Active Directory integration.

Sources said 10.3.2 will update MySQL to Version 4.0.16—the database's most recent version—and speed up importing of user records. The update will also tune up PostScript printing.

The company identified bug fixes to a wide range of system components, including Password Server, Single Sign On, LDAP and AFP Services.

Apple is also priming an update to Panther client, also Version 10.3.2. That update will reportedly include refinements to networking, graphics drivers, USB, WebDAV, international text and AFP Server, sources said.

Both updates will come on the heels of Version 10.3.1, which tweaked some system components but also addressed data-loss issues concerning FireWire 800 drives and the FileVault security feature.

Apple shipped Mac OS X Server 10.3 "Panther" on Oct. 24 with a price tag of $499 for a 10-client version and $999 for an unlimited-client license. The upgrade to the UNIX-based OS includes a new Server Admin management tool, Open Directory 2, Samba 3, and a JBoss application server, among other enhancements.

Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple was not immediately available for comment.

[Kristoff]

Originally posted by MasonMcD:
"Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate." Folding seems clear; you might fold a card to fit in an envelope, or a pocket. But you're not supposed crease these cards; that would jam the machine. Punch cards aren't to be used in your ways, for your purposes, but for those of the company that issued them.

"Spindle" is the word that most confuses people today. Spindling is an old filing system; a clerk would have a spindle, an upright spike on his or her desk, and would impale each piece of paper on it as he or she finished with it. When the spindle was full, you'd run a piece of string through the holes, tie up the bundle, and ship it off to the archives. (The custom still survives in some restaurants; the cashier spindles the bills as customers pay.) But you shouldn't spindle the cards: they are part of someone else's system of paperwork, not your own; they demand special attention.

It's the "mutilate" part that I want to know more about.