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hrubin1000 · Jan 8, 2004, 05:46 AM

After upgrading from Jaguar 10.2.6 to Panther 10.3.2, I can only boot into safe mode (shift depressed at startup chime). Regular startup yields a kernel panic. I've removed third party startup items in /library/startupitems to no avail. This appears to be a software conflict. Any ideas gratefully accepted.

G4, 1 MHZ Sonnet card, 1 GB RAM

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wadesworld · Jan 8, 2004, 07:42 AM

Post the panic.log. If we can see that, we may be able to make a guess.

Wade

gorickey · Jan 8, 2004, 07:48 AM

Start-up in "Verbose" mode (restart holding Command+V) and see where it stops/hangs....

hrubin1000 · Jan 8, 2004, 03:07 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wadesworld:
[B]Post the panic.log. If we can see that, we may be able to make a guess.

I checked Library/logs/ but there is no panic.log there or for that matter anywhere else on my computer.

hrubin1000 · Jan 8, 2004, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Start-up in "Verbose" mode (restart holding Command+V) and see where it stops/hangs....

Started in verbose mode and it hung at:

Exception State (sv=0x24F99780)

PX=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000(Unknown)

Kernel Verssion:
Darwin Kernel Version 7.2.0
Thu Dec 11 16:20:23PST 2003; root:xnu/xnu-517.3.7obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic:We are hanging here

I also ran fsck in single user mode and it reported that "the volume appears to be OK".

wadesworld · Jan 8, 2004, 04:01 PM

That doesn't look real useful.

Since it starts in safe mode, I'd try detaching any external hardware. If that doesn't work, I'd start removing non-Apple kexts.

Wade

topsi · Jan 8, 2004, 05:39 PM

I have same problem.

When I start my computer, it crashes occasionally into kernel panic. Resetting system helps normally and computer boots normal into panther. After boot computer is stable.

Maybe you guru's can tell me what is wrong with my computer. here is panic.log: (few rows from end)

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Thu Jan 8 02:38:33 2004

Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x700 - Program DAR=0x00000000006127D8 PC=0x00000000015A10C4
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x21555000)
PC=0x015A10C4; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x006127D8; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x0023DD24; R1=0x10AEBF00; XCP=0x0000001C (0x700 - Program)
Backtrace:
0x0023DD24 0x00093D20 0x00000000
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x21555000)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x1E448000)
PC=0x9000E98C; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x006127D8; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x901BE0F0; R1=0xBFFFE240; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 7.2.0:
Thu Dec 11 16:20:23 PST 2003; root:xnu/xnu-517.3.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

panic(cpu 0): 0x700 - Program
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x000833B8 0x0008389C 0x0001ED8C 0x000908C0 0x00093B8C
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x21555000)
PC=0x015A10C4; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x006127D8; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x0023DD24; R1=0x10AEBF00; XCP=0x0000001C (0x700 - Program)
Backtrace:
0x0023DD24 0x00093D20 0x00000000
Exception state (sv=0x1E448000)
PC=0x9000E98C; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x006127D8; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x901BE0F0; R1=0xBFFFE240; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 7.2.0:
Thu Dec 11 16:20:23 PST 2003; root:xnu/xnu-517.3.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

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I added some ram couple of weeks ago.. I dont remember if my computer started crashing after ram install.

Thanks

topsi · Jan 11, 2004, 03:37 PM

Nobody knows what's wrong with my computer?? Now I removed that new sdram dimm and I noticed kernel panic again. So I don't believe that ram is bad.

panic.log seems to be like that I already posted. (little differences)

Detrius · Jan 11, 2004, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by topsi:
Nobody knows what's wrong with my computer?? Now I removed that new sdram dimm and I noticed kernel panic again. So I don't believe that ram is bad.

panic.log seems to be like that I already posted. (little differences)

If this is on the machine that is 50% overclocked, I might try turning that off. That is a freaking huge increase. You are lucky your processor still works at all.

topsi · Jan 12, 2004, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Detrius:
If this is on the machine that is 50% overclocked, I might try turning that off. That is a freaking huge increase. You are lucky your processor still works at all.

Yes... I know that my computer is little bit overclocked, but this is the ONLY error that I have noticed. When I finally (after one or two boots) get my computer into panther, computer is stable and no more crashes will occur.

But that is strange because my computer has been 500 Mhz for three months and this problem became about two weeks ago.

But if nobody knows what is problem... So.. I can live with that.

Detrius · Jan 12, 2004, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by topsi:
Yes... I know that my computer is little bit overclocked, but this is the ONLY error that I have noticed. When I finally (after one or two boots) get my computer into panther, computer is stable and no more crashes will occur.

But that is strange because my computer has been 500 Mhz for three months and this problem became about two weeks ago.

But if nobody knows what is problem... So.. I can live with that.

I am running a B&W G3 at work. I also have a bizarre issue where the computer will KP on boot. The really odd thing is that it boots fine in verbose mode (holding down command-v on boot). I noticed that the screen resolution appeared to be 640x480 or something near this when the Apple logo appears. After having changed this, the machine now boots properly.

If the overclocked processor is reversible, try that and see what happens. If not, try resetting the PRAM and Open Firmware (reset-nvram, reset-all). Also, try changing the monitor resolution once you get the machine booted.

red44dog44 · Jan 13, 2004, 08:59 AM

had the same error had to do an archive and install fixed it

topsi · Jan 17, 2004, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by red44dog44:
had the same error had to do an archive and install fixed it

Ok, now problem is solved.

I tried to boot my computer with lower settings (450, 400 mhz) and still kernel panic occured. So I thought that it's not that overclocking that causes problem.

I installed panther again with clean install and i have noticed no more kernel panics! Thanks all who helped! Now my computer works smoothly and I haven't noticed any errors.