For some reason my cron scripts don't seem to do the rotating of log files and my error_log had ballooned to unmanageable proportions. I've moved it to error_log.old and created a new file called error_log where it used to be (/var/log/httpd/) but it won't update with my errors (I make A LOT of them doing this php/mysql stuff). Permissions are like the access_log file (that is u+rw, g+r), owned by root and in the group wheel. Any ideas about how to fix it? TIA