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Jan 18, 2004, 05:29 AM
 
There's a font on one of my Macs that is not on the other Macs... I am trying to find it... but its not in the normal locations:

/OSX/Library/Fonts
/OSX/System/Library/Fonts
/OSX/Users/-user-/Library/Fonts

The font shows up in KeyCaps, so I assume it is somewhere in the normal font path... anyone know the complete search path for fonts?? Thanks!!
     
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Jan 18, 2004, 05:43 AM
 
If you have Classic installed, OS X will use the fonts installed in /System Folder/Fonts/ as well.

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Jan 18, 2004, 10:17 AM
 
Fonts can also be stored in Computer:Network:Library:Fonts, if you're on a network.
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Jan 18, 2004, 10:28 AM
 
Its in none of those places. Any other suggestions?
     
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Jan 18, 2004, 10:41 AM
 
Originally posted by kennedy:
Its in none of those places. Any other suggestions?
Those are the places. Let Font Book show you the file (Command-R).
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Jan 18, 2004, 10:46 AM
 
Try searching for the file...
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Jan 18, 2004, 06:56 PM
 
Adobe apps will use fonts stored in Library/Application Support/Adobe folders (from at least the user and machine Library folders). Other apps don't see 'em, though.

If you're on Panther, I think Font Book can tell you where a font is installed. If not, and you have a font management utility such as Suitcase installed, that might tell you (and it might be why there seem to be fonts being loaded from non-standard locations, as that's a feature of such utilities).

Individual apps can load fonts of their own, too, sometimes from font resources stored within the app. These would be specific to certain apps, though.

Finally, several font formats allow for storing multiple font families and typefaces in the same file. (On OS 9, these "suitcases" were user-editable.) You may have a font file in one of the standard location which contains additional typefaces.
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Jan 18, 2004, 07:15 PM
 
InDesign also has its own font folder inside of its applications folder.


If you use Suitcase to manage your fonts you can control click on the font and show its location.
     
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Jan 19, 2004, 09:31 AM
 
Sorry, this may be slightly OT, but this thread got me wondering:

What the hell was Apple's intention to put fonts in /Library/Fonts/ and in /System/Library/Fonts/ ?

What is the difference or what difference in fonts makes them put the files in two different locations by default? I understand user and network fonts, but library and system library?
     
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Jan 19, 2004, 09:39 AM
 
Originally posted by Simon:
Sorry, this may be slightly OT, but this thread got me wondering:

What the hell was Apple's intention to put fonts in /Library/Fonts/ and in /System/Library/Fonts/ ?

What is the difference or what difference in fonts makes them put the files in two different locations by default? I understand user and network fonts, but library and system library?
The one in the /System folder is presumeably meant for the system default fonts and such. The one in the /Library folder is meant for all users to add fonts as well as the one in /User/Library/Fonts is meant for user-only fonts.
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Jan 19, 2004, 09:43 AM
 
Originally posted by OptimusG4:
The one in the /System folder is presumeably meant for the system default fonts and such. The one in the /Library folder is meant for all users to add fonts as well as the one in /User/Library/Fonts is meant for user-only fonts.
So, that would mean in theory I could delete everything in /Library/Fonts and my Mac would still work fine, but I shouldn't do that with /System/Library/Fonts/ ...?
     
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Jan 19, 2004, 10:11 AM
 
Right, generally speaking there's three levels:

$USER/Library - each User's own stuff
/Library - where the admin sets up stuff for all users
/System/Library - the stuff that Apple sets up for all who use OS X

And then the fonts in system 9, obviously.


Given KeyCaps is seeing this font "CODE39" and its 4 variants "S1", "S2", "S3", and "S4"... I assume its not in some application-specific spot. So, if its just those 4 directories that KeyCaps would see... then I must just not be seeing those fonts...

What are the rules for naming files there?
If I pull the strings out of those files, will I be able to grep for "code39"?
When you have a font submenu show up with individual fonts underneath... I guess that's a font family and fonts... how is that stored in the directories?

Any enlightenment here would be greatly appreciated.
     
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Jan 19, 2004, 12:33 PM
 
Originally posted by Simon:
Sorry, this may be slightly OT, but this thread got me wondering:

What the hell was Apple's intention to put fonts in /Library/Fonts/ and in /System/Library/Fonts/ ?

What is the difference or what difference in fonts makes them put the files in two different locations by default? I understand user and network fonts, but library and system library?
The fonts in /System/Library/Fonts/ are fonts required by the system. You should not touch ANY of these fonts, or you may have unexpected display problems.

The fonts in /Library/Fonts/ are user-added fonts (and non essential Apple-supplied fonts that could be deleted without problems) that are available to all users on the system.

User fonts (i.e. /Users/(username)/Library/Fonts/) are fonts only available to that user; other users cannot access them.
     
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Jan 19, 2004, 01:16 PM
 
Originally posted by Person Man:
The fonts in /System/Library/Fonts/ are fonts required by the system. You should not touch ANY of these fonts, or you may have unexpected display problems.

The fonts in /Library/Fonts/ are user-added fonts (and non essential Apple-supplied fonts that could be deleted without problems) that are available to all users on the system.

User fonts (i.e. /Users/(username)/Library/Fonts/) are fonts only available to that user; other users cannot access them.
Hehehe, restated what I just said
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Jan 19, 2004, 06:18 PM
 
Originally posted by OptimusG4:
Hehehe, restated what I just said
Well, yes, but later replies seemed to indicate that the original poster needed it more spelled out.
     
   
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