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What's the deal with Java?
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Jan 20, 2004, 12:55 AM
 
Why can't I use a lot of Java apps?

Like my e-trade account, or, Yahoo forum based chat?

I thought Java was supposed to be somewhat platform independent, yet, I need a PC to use it most of the time. I don't even like Java apps, they usually run like crap, but they are out there, so...
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Jan 20, 2004, 01:11 AM
 
On Mac OS X, Java applets work best in Safari, which takes advantage of the latest version of the standard Java Internet Plug-In.

For more information go here.

Here you find Java games.
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Jan 20, 2004, 01:47 AM
 
The answer is complex, it is two fold, one is that Java is not always Java many online applets are built using J++ and J# from MS which is not Java compliant. So it will only run on Windows completely.

As for Java applications most Java applications are built on Windows by Windows Developers, and they tend to make Java applications look and feel like windows applications.

Their is a small but growing number of Java developers developing desktop Java applications on Mac OS X. These Java application are more Mac like, and work far better.

Java in itself is not a poor development solution it is more that Java has suffered at the hand of MS and poor developers who build applications on Windows at the cost of good GUI interface guidelines.

Here is a sample of Java applications that work great on Mac OS X:

Have a look you may find may cool apps. Their are many more but they are very specific for developers.

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Jan 20, 2004, 01:56 AM
 
Also many application written in Cocoa, and Carbon use Java at the core because of Java superior networks abilities.

I think Acquisition uses Java as do many file sharing apps.

Java true strength is networking and servers, on the client side Java's performance has been poor in part to poor support in Java for desktop application but also poor developers with strong Windows bias.
     
   
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