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macross · Jan 28, 2004, 02:46 AM

I'm on panther and i noticed that everytime i turn off my laptop and turn it back on, my iCal always displays July 17th. I would click on iCal which will set it to the current date, but when i turn off my 12"pb, and turn it back on, it'll reset back to July 17th. Is there anyway to fix this so i can get the correct date?

Developer · Jan 28, 2004, 03:03 AM

For iCal to be able to change its Dock icon, it needs to run. I would think that's an obvious fact.

So if you want to always see the correct date, add iCal to your log-in items (see System Preferences->Users). You can then close the iCal window if you don't need it yet keep the app running.

kiskynet · Jan 28, 2004, 03:06 AM

Jul 17th was the day it was released.. (i believe)

tooki · Jan 28, 2004, 04:46 AM

July 17th is the application's icon (for example if you look at it in the Finder).

If you launch iCal, then it will change its Dock icon to a real-time calendar.

The solution is easy: add iCal to your startup items. (System Preferences->Accounts, select your account, select the Startup Items tab, press the + button.)

tooki

Millennium · Jan 28, 2004, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by kiskynet:
Jul 17th was the day it was released.. (i believe)

Actually, if I recall correctly, it wasn't released on that day, or even in July at all. Nobody knows why the date was chosen; I suspect they tried to find a date with no bad connotations in any culture that uses the Gregorian calendar, and that was the only one they could find.

Ω · Jan 28, 2004, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by Millennium:
Actually, if I recall correctly, it wasn't released on that day, or even in July at all. Nobody knows why the date was chosen; I suspect they tried to find a date with no bad connotations in any culture that uses the Gregorian calendar, and that was the only one they could find.

Does anybody else think this is paranoid???

Developer · Jan 28, 2004, 07:34 AM

iCal was announced on a July 17th. It's iCal's birthday.

proton · Jan 28, 2004, 07:37 AM

It's not that iCal was released for download on July 17th, but that it was announced in Steve Jobs' keynote at Macworld New York in 2002, which was on July 17th.

- proton

macross · 12:29 PM

Ah, that did the trick. Many thanks!

Bah, too bad it still has to start up the iCal, which is almost the same as me clicking on it everytime i start up my laptop.

mishap · Jan 28, 2004, 12:55 PM

It would be very nice to not have to start up iCal to displaythe correct date since i dont end up starting the app until halfway through my day.

Podolsky · Jan 28, 2004, 12:58 PM

Actually, if you start iCal it will update the dock icon with the days date, and if you quite iCal it remains updated in the dock even if you have hiding enabled. So, iCal needs to be run but it does not need to be running.

kiskynet · Jan 28, 2004, 01:04 PM

it'd be nice if it did display the date without running, in fact its misleading, it shouldn't show a date in the icon at all unless it can show the proper one.

c'mon how tough would it be for them to make something that keeps it updated a background task or something...

its a small touch but u know makes all the difference to us attention detail noticing mac freaks

mishap · Jan 28, 2004, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by kiskynet:
it'd be nice if it did display the date without running, in fact its misleading, it shouldn't show a date in the icon at all unless it can show the proper one.

c'mon how tough would it be for them to make something that keeps it updated a background task or something...

its a small touch but u know makes all the difference to us attention detail noticing mac freaks

exactly.

the point is...i dont want to start iCal until i want to use it...i dont think displaying the date counts for using the app.

Kenneth · Jan 28, 2004, 02:11 PM

I wish Apple add this nice feature in the future version of iCal.

beno · Jan 28, 2004, 02:13 PM

I used to think that iCal showed the users birthday. You see, my birthday is July 17th and I thought that somehow, iCal new this and displayed my birthday until I opened iCal and it switched to todays date. I spent almost a year thinking this, showing friends how cool it was. Finally I looked at someone elses Mac and realised that everyone's said July 17th. I sure felt stupid.
Ben

kiskynet · Jan 28, 2004, 02:40 PM

dude i feel sorry for you finding out it wasn't your b'day like finding out about santa or something (you know about santa right?)

what does it want anyway, a card every year...

come to think of it that big 17 in my dock is starting to really annoy me now... if it can't manage the freaking days date then yeah atleast my b'day (15th october btw)

apple stop messing about with this multiple timezone support and 'detachable draw' crap get the icon fixed...

ical/provide ical feedback

Luca Rescigno · Jan 29, 2004, 12:49 PM

Also, iCal's calendar display is NOT real-time. If you have iCal on at 11:50 and leave it on past midnight, it won't update the date on the icon unless you quit and reopen it.

Personally, I think it should just skip the date unless it's running, and when it is running, it should automatically update.

d4nth3m4n · Jan 29, 2004, 12:53 PM

search around, i think someone wrote a script to open ical just long enough to update (hehe) then quit. i think it might even have been in this forum. i remember seeing it.

good luck.
Dan.

wataru · Jan 29, 2004, 01:56 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I don't want yet another background process running, especially for something as stupid as changing the date on an icon. I say there's nothing wrong with how it works now.

CharlesS · Jan 29, 2004, 07:29 PM

They should change the default icon so it doesn't have a date on it - I agree that this is misleading and annoying.

Cadaver · Jan 29, 2004, 11:09 PM

I've got my iCal set as a startup item, but hidden. When the machine boots, the window flashes briefly (don't even see it sometimes) and the window then hides.
Even if you never open the app (window) until later in the day, the OS will page out the occupied RAM to disk if necessary anyway.
Even on a lowly 600MHz iBook w/ 640MB (and a rip roaringly slow 15GB HD), I don't see any detectable slowdown.

CharlesS · Jan 29, 2004, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Cadaver:
I've got my iCal set as a startup item, but hidden. When the machine boots, the window flashes briefly (don't even see it sometimes) and the window then hides.
Even if you never open the app (window) until later in the day, the OS will page out the occupied RAM to disk if necessary anyway.
Even on a lowly 600MHz iBook w/ 640MB (and a rip roaringly slow 15GB HD), I don't see any detectable slowdown.

I get that flash too. What I'm wondering is, why does it occur? It doesn't do that for any other apps under Panther, and it didn't do it for iCal either before the update. It's annoying.

madmacgames · Jan 30, 2004, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
Also, iCal's calendar display is NOT real-time. If you have iCal on at 11:50 and leave it on past midnight, it won't update the date on the icon unless you quit and reopen it.

Mine updates itself. I have my iCal running all the time when my powerbook is awake and the date always changes. In fact about 1/2 hour ago it changed from the 29th to the 30th.