[redoid]

Hello all,

I bought my PB last month and it came with Jaguar installed. I called Apple and asked for the upgrade CDs for Panther and upgraded to it.

Now if I want to format the drive, can I install Panther straight away of do I need to install jaguar first then do the upgrade on top of it?

Thanks

[rhogue islander]

I'm afraid you have to install jaguar first

[Moonray]

I think the CDs you get from Apple's Up-To-Date program are always full installation CDs. At least they have been and I never heard anything different. Otherwise there should be mentioned something about it on the CDs.

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[mmurray]

Originally posted by Moonray:
I think the CDs you get from Apple's Up-To-Date program are always full installation CDs. At least they have been and I never heard anything different. Otherwise there should be mentioned something about it on the CDs.

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In Australia my G5 came with 10.2 because they hadn't shipped with 10.3. I ordered the 10.3 update CD and when it came it was an update CD ie it assumed you have 10.2.

Michael

[Cadaver]

Disks 2 and 3 of the up-to-date package and the retail package are the same. Disk 1, however, is different.

If your machine came with, or was eligible for, a free Panther update, then your Disk 1 will say "Version 10.3, Install Disc 1, Upgrade Disk." This requires a pre-installation of Jaguar. You can then erase and reformat the HD once it verifies Jag is on the machine.

The retail box's Disk 1 says "Version 10.3, Install Disc 1." This installer does not require any OS on the drive prior to Panther installation.

Edit: in other words, you can completely format and clean install Panther from the upgrade disk, as long as Jaguar is on the machine first. However, lets say your Panther installation then sometime down the road gets borked, and you want to reinstall. You're then stuck putting Jaguar on the disk first - since the installed looks for an existing Jaguar installation - then clean installing Panther. With the retail version, you could just reinstall without needing Jaguar first. The update-version installer isn't programmed to allow you to install Panther over Panther (I've tried).

[dot_nix]

Originally posted by redoid:
Hello all,

I bought my PB last month and it came with Jaguar installed. I called Apple and asked for the upgrade CDs for Panther and upgraded to it.

Now if I want to format the drive, can I install Panther straight away of do I need to install jaguar first then do the upgrade on top of it?

Thanks

When I got my Jaguar Update CD I wanted to format my 10.1 drive and completely wipe it out. But I had the upgrade cd so it wasn't possible. But then i saw a hint somewhere that said if I removed a file in the CD the Upgrade CD would'nt check for the existing 10.1 installation. So I created a disk image of the CD (with read/write) so I deleted that one file and burned the cd on to a cd-r and WALA! It worked! I forgot what file it was but I will find out and post back. I am sure panther has this functionality. And remember you only need to do this for the first disk since the other disk are just additional packages.

hope this helps.

[tooki]

You can burn a copy of the Update CD that doesn't check for a previous installation. You make a "DVD/CD Master" format disk image (using Disk Copy), mount and open the disk image, and then View Package Contents on the Essentials.pkg file, and then delete the CheckforOSX file. Then unmount and burn the image back to CD and boot from it.

The word is "voilà!" not "wala", by the way.

tooki

[Person Man]

Originally posted by tooki:
The word is "voilà!" not "wala", by the way.

I don't know, I always love it when people say "Wala" (or my personal favorite: "Wallah!")

I also like the people who don't get it quite right, and say, viola! To that, I say, "and violin to you too!"

[redoid]

thanks for all your replies.