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May 13, 2004, 01:40 AM
 
When one invokes mute and then proceeds to decrease the volume, one would expect mute to be sustained until un-muted or volume is increased. That would be logical, no? I contend it is.

So then it boggles my mind as to why Apple apparently contends otherwise. Why does decreasing the volume release mute? Is this a bug?

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May 13, 2004, 05:37 AM
 
Originally posted by ASIMO:
When one invokes mute and then proceeds to decrease the volume, one would expect mute to be sustained until un-muted or volume is increased. That would be logical, no? I contend it is.

So then it boggles my mind as to why Apple apparently contends otherwise. Why does decreasing the volume release mute? Is this a bug?

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It works the same as most home stereos. If you have muted the sound and then you play around with the volume, that would indicate you want to unmute and listen at the volume you are settting it to. Look at it this way, if you are manipulating the volume when it is muted, how can you tell what volume you are setting if you can't hear it?
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May 13, 2004, 06:23 AM
 
I've seen both implementations, but I think the 'un-muting' behaviour tends to be more prevalent. For example, my TV behaves the same way: decreasing/increasing the volume cancels the mute effect. I think this is particularly useful for people who accidentally press mute and don't know what it is -- they then start to frantically press buttons until the sound is restored.
     
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May 13, 2004, 06:42 AM
 
Im with Msuper69 on this one.
As with with most amplified equipment if adjusting the volume didn't release the mute function you could end up at full volume and not realise it until you turned mute off.
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May 13, 2004, 10:52 AM
 
No, that's not how it works (I've NEVER seen that implementation), and it's not what ASIMO is suggesting. Most home stereos and TVs stay muted as you lower the volume, but unmute immediately if you raise it.

THAT is what ASIMO wants, and I tend to agree.

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May 13, 2004, 12:41 PM
 
Originally posted by tooki:
No, that's not how it works (I've NEVER seen that implementation), and it's not what ASIMO is suggesting. Most home stereos and TVs stay muted as you lower the volume, but unmute immediately if you raise it.

THAT is what ASIMO wants, and I tend to agree.

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tooki, you deserve a lesbian girl scout cookie. That is exactly what I suggesting, and furthermore, I think this current implementation of mute in OS X has not always been the case. Perhaps I am fabricating things, but I think even earlier versions of OS X (say, pre-10.2) did not implement mute in this fashion. Unfortunately, both my Macs are 10.3.

Some folks do not seem to realize the benefits of being able to immediately mute an unexpectedly loud setting and decrease the setting without un-muting at the same time.
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May 13, 2004, 12:57 PM
 
Originally posted by ASIMO:
Some folks do not seem to realize the benefits of being able to immediately mute an unexpectedly loud setting and decrease the setting without un-muting at the same time.
Also, I tend to know that when my volume meter visually is at *point a* level, then the sound level will be *this*.

Late at night, roommate's in bed, go to some flash site with not-a-volume-control on it that's blasting through your speakers, it'd be nice to mute-->lower volume to where I know it's quiet enough-->unmute; as opposed to closing the window because you can't turn the volume down without the flash soundtrack blaring in your face. I realize it only takes 3 seconds to turn the volume down, but 3 seconds of loud sounds at 3:00 in the AM can seem like a long time.

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