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Force-restart has become a daily routine.
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Is it just me or OS X has become more unstable since the 10.3.3 update? I am like averaging 1 force-restart everyday... Safari is causing most of the freezing. I ain't no lovin' it.
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Originally posted by Sealobo:
Is it just me or OS X has become more unstable since the 10.3.3 update?....
I'm guessing it's just you as I don't experience that on multiple Macs...
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have you run some disk utils.. maybe a repair permissions.. trashed the safari prefs?
those would be good places to start.
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Sounds like you have a hardware problem. Check your RAM.
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Nah 10.3.3 is really that bad  heck I've been hearing of limited experiences like that (mine included) since 10.3.0...
I used to be able to get ~12 days on my g4 even if the ram was flaky. 10.3 took that back down to ~3 at most and it's like the 10.1 days all over again 
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I've never had instability problems with any release of OS X, but some people are having significant issues. It would help if the original poster would be more specific - "crashing in Safari" isn't too descriptive.
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I've only had one kernel panic (KP) in 10.3.3, and that was when Retrospect 5.1 tried to access my SCSI tape drive. Retrospect 5.1 is incompatible with 10.3, though, so I blame that on Retrospect more that 10.3.
I have had only two more KPs ever, with 10.2.3 and 10.2.1, both of which appears to be Samba-related)
Since I've switched to BRU for backups, I've not had another KP.
I have a dual 1.0 GHZ MDD PowerMac G4.
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Originally posted by Sealobo:
Is it just me or OS X has become more unstable since the 10.3.3 update? I am like averaging 1 force-restart everyday... Safari is causing most of the freezing. I ain't no lovin' it.
Define "freezing." If the mouse stops moving, you probably have a hardware problem. If the mouse will still move, it's probably a software problem.
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Originally posted by Sealobo:
Is it just me or OS X has become more unstable since the 10.3.3 update?
My PowerBook's not exhibiting any major instability. Perhaps the problem you're experiencing is caused by a 3rd-party app?
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I think a lot of people are having similar problems lately--myself included. There's a discussion here in macnn that goes through a lot of it: "Panther Locks Up - Move Mouse But Nothing Else" and there's one on the Apple Support Discussion titled "Panther freezes; no force-quit cmd works."
I've been having numerous crashes for the past week--anywhere from one a day to 5 a day. The system freezes, typically, it comes to a complete stop, can't move the mouse, and I can't force quit--have to do a hard restart. I have kept all the software up to date--Airport 3.4.1, OS 10.3.3 (or whatever it's at now), and the crashes persist. I've even done a clean install, zeroed out the drive, but it continues to crash. I've run the Apple hardware test and nothing comes up as problematic. I've swapped out RAM modules and still no differences.
It's impossible to predict exactly when the crashes occur. Sometimes in Word; sometimes Filemaker; somtimes MSN Messenger; sometimes Safari; sometimes on cut and pastes; sometimes on saves.
Reinstalling the system has seemed to cut down somewhat on crashes, but not entirely. Have run Diskwarrior, among other things to no avail. Repair Permissions, DiskUtility, etc.
Also, these crashes do not generate a crash report in the console. I've never had problems like this before with OS X, and I was rather worried that I was having a serious hardware failure until I read through the discussions about Panther freezing, and I'm hoping now that it's software rather than hardware.
Am currently thinking about wiping the drive again and going back to 10.3.0 and seeing if that helps.
This has been one blown week for work......
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Hardware Overview:
Machine Model: PowerBook G4
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 800 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB
Memory: 512 MB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.3.7f3
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I had the same problem until I killed my system prefs and my safari prefs. Now I'm rock solid stable again.
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