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hi
I was wondering if anybody might have any idea what could cause this
on two or three occasions while in OSX - the entire system has frozen - with what I can only describe as ms-dos like writing that covers the screen (and overlays the desktop)
they only words I remember were "kernel exception" etc
all I can do is press the imac restart button
this is the first time I have seen my imac do this - anyone have any idea what it is?
rich
(Last edited by rich82fox; Jun 25, 2004 at 03:37 PM.
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Originally posted by rich82fox:
hi
I was wondering if anybody might have any idea what could cause this
on two or three occasions while in OSX - the entire system has frozen - with what I can only describe as ms-dos like writing that covers the screen (and overlays the desktop)
they only words I remember were "kernel exception" etc
all I can do is press the imac restart button
this is the first time I have seen my imac do this - anyone have any idea what it is?
rich
It's called a Kernel Panic. Typically this is caused by a hardware issue such as faulty RAM (have you installed any lately?) or other culprits like USB devices. If it isn't likely to be RAM, you can test if it is a USB device (such as a hub) by removing that device for a while. If you no longer get a panic then it is probably the device that is the problem.
Edit: Third party software can also be to blame - have you installed any new software recently? If so, try un-installing it to see if the panics stop.
You can help Apple eliminate these crashes by sending them the panic logs (post them at the MacOS X Feedback page at www.apple.com) - the text of the panics can be copied from the Console app in your Utilities folder (Open Console, click the logs button to show all available logs and then select /Library/Logs where you will find the "panic.log"
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If you've installed APE lately, uninstall it.
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Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
If you've installed APE lately, uninstall it.
Unfounded.
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Originally posted by gorickey:
Unfounded.
Or is it?
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Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
Or is it?
It's not.
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Originally posted by JKT:
It's called a Kernel Panic. Typically this is caused by a hardware issue such as faulty RAM (have you installed any lately?) or other culprits like USB devices. If it isn't likely to be RAM, you can test if it is a USB device (such as a hub) by removing that device for a while. If you no longer get a panic then it is probably the device that is the problem.
Edit: Third party software can also be to blame - have you installed any new software recently? If so, try un-installing it to see if the panics stop.
You can help Apple eliminate these crashes by sending them the panic logs (post them at the MacOS X Feedback page at www.apple.com) - the text of the panics can be copied from the Console app in your Utilities folder (Open Console, click the logs button to show all available logs and then select /Library/Logs where you will find the "panic.log"
In fact, if you could copy/paste the text of panic.log here, we may be able to get a better idea of what's going on.
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Originally posted by gorickey:
It's not.
Yes, it is. APEs do not execute in kernel space, and therefore cannot cause kernel panics directly.
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Originally posted by Angus_D:
Yes, it is. APEs do not execute in kernel space, and therefore cannot cause kernel panics directly.
I know, that's what I was trying to tell Horsepoo!!! who wanted to pass blame off to APE with no found reason...
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Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
If you've installed APE lately, uninstall it.
Sigh. APE runs in user space, not in kernel space. User space things CAN'T cause kernel panics.
(Disclaimer: Unless Apple's got a bug in the kernel that allows user-space processes to cause kernel panics, which would be a very bad bug in very mature code. This is unlikely.)
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Originally posted by smeger:
Sigh. APE runs in user space, not in kernel space. User space things CAN'T cause kernel panics.
(Disclaimer: Unless Apple's got a bug in the kernel that allows user-space processes to cause kernel panics, which would be a very bad bug in very mature code. This is unlikely.)
Well, since it appears as "dos-text" its not a normal kernel panic.. It should be a nice multi-language warning appearing. In any case, if APE conflicts bad enough with the system it can very well make a kernel panic happen.
We all remember this don't we.. 
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Depends on which version of OSX the original poster uses, multi-language panel is more recent.
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Originally posted by bmhome1:
Depends on which version of OSX the original poster uses, multi-language panel is more recent.
Umm.. anyone still on 10.1!?
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Originally posted by Busemann:
Well, since it appears as "dos-text" its not a normal kernel panic.. It should be a nice multi-language warning appearing. In any case, if APE conflicts bad enough with the system it can very well make a kernel panic happen.
Not if Apple's doing its job right. A kernel panic is when the kernel's memoryspace is put into an invalid state. This can only happen because of one of two things:[list=1][*]A bug in the Mach kernel.[*]A bug in a kernel extension.[/list=1]
APE does not load into the kernel or any kexts, therefore it cannot be the root cause for a kernel panic.
We all remember this don't we..
If I recall, that was a bug in the file system driver -- in the kernel.
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Originally posted by Busemann:
Umm.. anyone still on 10.1!?
Anyone who doesn't bother to report OSX version in query may very well be.
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Originally posted by smeger:
(Disclaimer: Unless Apple's got a bug in the kernel that allows user-space processes to cause kernel panics, which would be a very bad bug in very mature code. This is unlikely.)
Mature code? xnu? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Originally posted by Busemann:
Umm.. anyone still on 10.1!?
...or even 10.0.
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Originally posted by alphasubzero949:
...or even 10.0.
DP3 all the way!
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Originally posted by Busemann:
Umm.. anyone still on 10.1!?
Look at the original poster's signature... it says he's using 10.1
So yes, he is... I can't believe this wasn't obvious...
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Originally posted by alphasubzero949:
...or even 10.0.
or even the public beta despite they were given the update cd
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Originally posted by macaddict0001:
or even the public beta despite they were given the update cd
Actually the Public Beta expired about 3 years ago.
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Originally posted by rich82fox:
hi
this is the first time I have seen my imac do this - anyone have any idea what it is?
rich
Aye! Dios Mio!
10.1? cheebus! How do you use that POS?
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Originally posted by Angus_D:
Actually the Public Beta expired about 3 years ago.
I was just joking
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