[Mac Write]

I am working on a new Mac site N2M that will focus on helping people with the Mac. Having a developer access isn't enough since you don't get access to stuff life iLife and stuff. on The Screen Savers in January 2003 someone was on who wrote a book on iLife 03" and had access to it for months. I want that same level of access to stuff so I can write up the articles ahead of time (Tiger, iLife 05") so I can have the articles down to provide the best level of help to the Mac user.

[eevyl]

I would try here:

http://www.apple.com/pr/contacts/

[Mac Write]

So it is a PR thing then? I didn't think they where the right people to contact.

[Mrjinglesusa]

No offense, but I don't think Apple is going to give "some guy" access to software months ahead of time. The people who write those books are for the most part well known Macintosh platform writers and work for companies that have the access you want. I just don't see Apple giving new software months ahead of time to some guy on the internet making a new website. Good luck. You're best bet is to get in their developer program. They often give pre-release software to developers to make their apps work with new stuff.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
No offense, but I don't think Apple is going to give "some guy" access to software months ahead of time. The people who write those books are for the most part well known Macintosh platform writers and work for companies that have the access you want. I just don't see Apple giving new software months ahead of time to some guy on the internet making a new website. Good luck. You're best bet is to get in their developer program. They often give pre-release software to developers to make their apps work with new stuff.

Tiger is only one part of N2M. I am a serious writer who runs MacWrite.com. I was going to contact them in a few months once they see what the site is about (when I have the Panther and Jaguar content up). Then they will see it's a very serious site. We are paying for content on the site. So it's not just some guy. The site is for profit, and helping the Mac user.

[piracy]

Apple Media Relations is most certainly the right place for what you describe.

http://www.apple.com/pr/contacts/

Good luck.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by piracy:
Apple Media Relations is most certainly the right place for what you describe.

http://www.apple.com/pr/contacts/

Good luck.

Thanks.

I would join Select (I am a free account right now), but it doesn't give access to iLife seeds, which I would like access to to help people with articles before it comes out.

I am launching N2M when Tiger comes out. I also finally got access to ADC after my e-mail changed 2 years ago.

Anyone here a Select ADC member and can give me some inside as to how often you get seed access (near GM). What other then the OS GM software do ADC Select members get for free?

[ginoledesma]

Just as an added note, while you may have access to the pre-release software, you'll also be bound by an NDA, so whatever content you're going to prepare can only come out after the software has been released (or whatever agreement you have with Apple). But because pre-release software is pre-release, things could change even at the last minute. I think dealing with the release candidates and/or golden masters may prove to be less headache, although that means a shorter time frame, too.

[Randman]

You're likely to run into a wall. As stated above, even if you're given access, you're bound by confidentiality agreements. And even established magazines rarely, if ever, get advance copies of software and the ability to publish.
Just because your intentions are good and your business principles sound, that doesn't help Apple at all. If they want pub, they have a well-oiled pr machine to do the work.

[Randman]

BTW, I never heard of iLife '03. Do you, by chance, mean iLife '04? And if you are planning a site to help people (though look how many forums there are for free), you should make sure your facts are straight before hitting the send button.

[Mac Write]

I would never break NDA. It would allow me to get the articles done up before launch, then fine tune them after I have GM, then start posting them on the day the new OS comes out.

Maybe I will have to wait for iLife 06" to show I am established to gain access to preview versions to do the site.

Any Select developers here want to give me some insight? I know you get Safari seeds, along with minor OS revisions, along with QT. Have you ever gotten none GM version's of iLife? Do you get iLife for free? I want to get an idea of what kind of resources I will have access to. Also what is the % of the hardware discount? and is it for Computers vs. display (which I am over due for 8 years old this year).

I just want to make the best possible newbie resource possible and not having to be learning the OS at launch, and figuring out new things.

[SMacTech]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
Any Select developers here want to give me some insight? I know you get Safari seeds, along with minor OS revisions, along with QT. Have you ever gotten none GM version's of iLife? Do you get iLife for free?

No free iLife with a select. I purchased it and it was well worth the $49.

[alphasubzero949]

Something stinks in here. Someone please get a mop and some Lysol.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by SMacTech:
No free iLife with a select. I purchased it and it was well worth the $49.

I thought I remember hearing about Select getting other software. Guess I will have to get cossy with the PR person of the iLife apps then.


hmmm now the question is it worth the price to download seeds of OS X to get ahead of people. It would be fun to also build my little App I have always wanted to build too

[Millennium]

It is extremely unlikely that Apple will give this kind of access to "some guy starting up a new site". You're only going to be able to get access to early review copies once your publication is already well-extablished. That will take years, in part because it really is largely a matter of how long you've been around and how big your reader base is.

[ambush]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
Tiger is only one part of N2M. I am a serious writer who runs MacWrite.com. I was going to contact them in a few months once they see what the site is about (when I have the Panther and Jaguar content up). Then they will see it's a very serious site. We are paying for content on the site. So it's not just some guy. The site is for profit, and helping the Mac user.

They never give out beta sw to press anyway.

[iDriveX]

If I were you, before I contacted Apple PR and told them how serious you are, I would remove the article on MacWrite.com that shows you how to "obtain iTunes Music Store songs for free". Sometimes, companies in the habit of wanting to make a profit frown on people that circumvent their money making. lol...I know

[Xeo]

I would not visit MacWrite.com. You're articles are weeks apart and there are a ton of other news sites that update every day. You're going to have to pay for whatever Apple gives you.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by Xeo:
I would not visit MacWrite.com. You're articles are weeks apart and there are a ton of other news sites that update every day. You're going to have to pay for whatever Apple gives you.

We are now doing weekly articles and moving to 3 articles a week by September. but N2M is not part of MacWrite.com

It's not about paying I always buy each OS X, and now iLife. It's about learning the software to have the content avaliable when the public gets access. when the first iLife came out can't remember his name (not David Pogue) had access to iLife 3-4 months ahead of time to get his book ready in time (and there's the mistake in there that says to get iPhoto 2, iMovie 3 you need to pay the $49).

I will just work to build N2M over 2005 and prove the Apple the site is serious. and hopefully they will want to work with the site. And I might even make a book from it people say I should write a book, so we will see.

[iDriveX]

You should write a book about photography:

Picture 1
Picture 2
Picture 3

Do you need 3-D glasses to view those pics without a headache? I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

[Mr. Blur]

I just looked at the site for the first time. I don't want to sound too harsh but you are not going to be taken very seriously with such glaring spelling and grammar errors like:
"...how to get allot of free music..."
"...running Ma OS X on my..."
"Well, a week ago things went south again and here is my tail..."

[iDriveX]

And while I'm not perfect, If I were advertising "appleads.com" as one of my websites, I'd have it redirect to a website I own, unless of course you are aware that it redirects to a hosting company and it's a bait and switch thing. If the latter is the case then you are smarter than you seem....

[unregistered]

Originally posted by Mr. Blur:
I just looked at the site for the first time. I don't want to sound too harsh but you are not going to be taken very seriously with such glaring spelling and grammar errors like:
"...how to get allot of free music..."
"...running Ma OS X on my..."
"Well, a week ago things went south again and here is my tail..."

"Complete archive of Moof'n articles avalaible on"

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by iDriveX:
And while I'm not perfect, If I were advertising "appleads.com" as one of my websites, I'd have it redirect to a website I own, unless of course you are aware that it redirects to a hosting company and it's a bait and switch thing. If the latter is the case then you are smarter than you seem....

AppleAds.com doesn't link to anything. The domain is inactive and I haven't updated my signature.

Those pictures didn't turn out. I am very good at photography.

Look at the latest article on the site, that is quality writing BTW.

[iDriveX]

Dude, with all of the writing you do, I find it hard to believe that you are a "self employed small business owner" that creates "content" for clients. Also kind of hard to believe that you have "accounting, customer database, time management, communications and research needs". Perhaps you should use your Mac OS Compatible Time Management Apps and budget in some time to do work that you get paid for. And while the article is well written, it doesn't really appeal to the audience you are trying to connect with. Instead of writing articles on how small business can be effected by using a system of Macintoshes, why not put together a flash demo and put it on a auto-run windows CD and go door to door in small business parks to SHOW them, and then take some orders.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by iDriveX:
Dude, with all of the writing you do, I find it hard to believe that you are a "self employed small business owner" that creates "content" for clients. Also kind of hard to believe that you have "accounting, customer database, time management, communications and research needs". Perhaps you should use your Mac OS Compatible Time Management Apps and budget in some time to do work that you get paid for. And while the article is well written, it doesn't really appeal to the audience you are trying to connect with. Instead of writing articles on how small business can be effected by using a system of Macintoshes, why not put together a flash demo and put it on a auto-run windows CD and go door to door in small business parks to SHOW them, and then take some orders.

Uh that wasn't written by me.

and MacWrite.com does make money. You know nothing about me, and I about you. I am seirous about N2M, MacWrite.com and AppleAds.com. I enjoy the Mac and want to help other Mac users.

[iDriveX]

I learned a long time ago that it's much better to have the Mac as a hobby, and have a real job, than make something that you enjoy your job, because then you will start to hate it. Those are just my pearl's of wisdom though.

[Randman]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
I enjoy the Mac and want to help other Mac users.

Learn how to activate spellcheck, first of all. No one is going to take you seriously if you can't spell and can't have the computer check it for you.
It's great that you enjoy the Mac. But if you're truly interested in helping others, contribute meaningful posts here (or anywhere else).
But to want to make money off it, you're not starting off on the right foot. And to be honest (I'm a journalist with more than 15 years of professional experience so I know something about publishing and being published), from looking over a sampling of your threads on this board, they don't really seem very helpful nor particularly insightful.
Kudos for having the motivation to do something, but you come across as quite young and also a little naive.
If you're really serious, contact your local newspaper(s) and see if they take submissions for reviews of products and stuff. They likely won't pay, or pay much, but it'll give you some experience and feedback, which you are sorely in need of.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by Randman:
Learn how to activate spellcheck, first of all. No one is going to take you seriously if you can't spell and can't have the computer check it for you.
It's great that you enjoy the Mac. But if you're truly interested in helping others, contribute meaningful posts here (or anywhere else).
But to want to make money off it, you're not starting off on the right foot. And to be honest (I'm a journalist with more than 15 years of professional experience so I know something about publishing and being published), from looking over a sampling of your threads on this board, they don't really seem very helpful nor particularly insightful.
Kudos for having the motivation to do something, but you come across as quite young and also a little naive.
If you're really serious, contact your local newspaper(s) and see if they take submissions for reviews of products and stuff. They likely won't pay, or pay much, but it'll give you some experience and feedback, which you are sorely in need of.

My writing according to a newspaper editor and journalist friend and editor for the site (now) My writing has improved in the latest articles I am working on.

The site up until Jan 1, was publishing a weekly article "Critical Mass" until the writer got to busy, now we have a new writer and are looking for other writers to join the site (we do pay) Maybe you might want to write for the site. You will be paid well per article (as websites are concerned).

[msuper69]

This is a joke, right?

[OzarkMtn]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
Uh that wasn't written by me.

and MacWrite.com does make money. You know nothing about me, and I about you. I am seirous about N2M, MacWrite.com and AppleAds.com. I enjoy the Mac and want to help other Mac users.

How "seirous" are you about this concept? Why are you so hell bent on the iLife package? I really think that you are full of s*** and you are just trying to figure out how to obtain unreleased or free software from Apple.

Why don't you work with smaller developers and help them with their products, they would have a greater appreciation for your in-depth coverage than Apple.

Apple does not need you, nice try anyway.

[Mac Write]

Originally posted by OzarkMtn:
How "seirous" are you about this concept? Why are you so hell bent on the iLife package? I really think that you are full of s*** and you are just trying to figure out how to obtain unreleased or free software from Apple.

Why don't you work with smaller developers and help them with their products, they would have a greater appreciation for your in-depth coverage than Apple.

Apple does not need you, nice try anyway.

I always buy iLife, .Mac, and OS X. with each new version. I am very serious about the site, and getting MacWrite.com going again. which is slowly happening right now with the hiring of a professional writer who I are paying.

Although N2M primary focus is the OS since there are so many apps to cover, after seeing that guy who got access to it to write his iLife book (the 2003 edition) I want to learn the software ahead of public release so I can help people the best way possible with high quality articles, and tips. Also would do a double whammy and do a few reviews per app on MacWrite.com so Apple gets double exposure. I am not after pirated software, but I am still working up to getting stuff for review. N2M is a site that i want to do right and don't want to be breaking my neck at an App launch to learn it and get all the content out. I want to have a good understanding of the app before launch so I can provide the best help possible to people exploring the software when they get it on the day of launch.

Also with being under NDA and then releasing my articles are launch (when I join Select) I am confused if I am allowed to post my articles that I wrote based on the OS leading up to GM once I verify the features in the GM version since I was working with a version under NDA.

As for the smaller developer they are welcome to send in review copies to MacWrite.com and N2M when it launches. Right now I am re-grouping with MacWrite.com and waiting for VBCMS for N2M since the site is to large to manage with static HTML pages.

[unregistered]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
...after seeing that guy who got access to it to write his iLife book (the 2003 edition) I want to learn the software ahead of public release so I can help people the best way possible with high quality articles, and tips.

I assume that you are referring to Jim Heid. You may want to go to Amazon and search for his name. You will find that he has been writing books about the Mac for at least 19 years; He is an established author. Whether you like it or not, there is a difference between being published on paper versus running an internet site.

Jim Heid at Amazon

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
My writing according to a newspaper editor and journalist friend and editor for the site (now) My writing has improved in the latest articles I am working on.

The site up until Jan 1, was publishing a weekly article "Critical Mass" until the writer got to busy, now we have a new writer and are looking for other writers to join the site (we do pay) Maybe you might want to write for the site. You will be paid well per article (as websites are concerned).

You need to take a class on writing. Sorry to put it bluntly, but your writing is absolutely horrible. Your tenses are screwed up and if a writer gets "to" busy it is spelled TOO. Seriously, this HAS to be a joke. You really cannot be serious about writing articles for a Mac site and asking Apple to give you software based on what I have seen here of your writing ability.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
You need to take a class on writing. Sorry to put it bluntly, but your writing is absolutely horrible. Your tenses are screwed up and if a writer gets "to" busy it is spelled TOO. Seriously, this HAS to be a joke. You really cannot be serious about writing articles for a Mac site and asking Apple to give you software based on what I have seen here of your writing ability.

But he has a professional writer that he are paying!

What do you mean by professional? Someone established? Or does pro just mean he's getting paid?

[Randman]

Originally posted by Mac Write:
My writing according to a newspaper editor and journalist friend and editor for the site (now) My writing has improved in the latest articles I am working on.

The site up until Jan 1, was publishing a weekly article "Critical Mass" until the writer got to busy, now we have a new writer and are looking for other writers to join the site (we do pay) Maybe you might want to write for the site. You will be paid well per article (as websites are concerned).

If any professional journalist compliments you on your writing it's because

a) he's sleeping with some family member.

b) he's actually a paper boy.

c) your family is giving him lots of money for no reason and he's blowing smoke up your...

d) you have actually improved on your writing, and if this is the case, I think you should give up all hope right now.

e) all of the above.

I really was going to try and correct all of the grammar and spelling mistakes in the post listed above, but it just got "too" be "to" many and I gave it up.
And honestly, I'd give it up right now because every subsequent post you make makes you sound even more distant from anywhere most people would consider reality.

[wadesworld]

Tiger is only one part of N2M. I am a serious writer who runs MacWrite.com. I was going to contact them in a few months once they see what the site is about (when I have the Panther and Jaguar content up). Then they will see it's a very serious site. We are paying for content on the site. So it's not just some guy. The site is for profit, and helping the Mac user

I'm sorry to deliver the bad news too, but it's not going happen. Apple will politely tell you "no."

And no, you can't join the Select developer program and then start writing articles about the software you receive. You'll get your Select membership yanked (without refund) so fast it will make your head spin.

From your writing style, you sound very young. There's nothing wrong with that, but you need to understand the world often doesn't work how you would like and there's quite often nothing unfair about that.

As others suggested, why not spend your time finding lesser-known programs by small developers and highlighting them? That will be more useful to Mac users than yet another review of iLife or the OS, which they can read about on all the big sites or in books.

Wade