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Omer · Jul 8, 2004, 03:03 PM

I'm about to buy a new PowerBook, and I can't find anyone who knows if new Macs bought in the US with OS 10.3.x come with a Classic enviroment that includes WorldScript and the various language kits (specificaly, Hebrew) - whether installed by default, or to be installed from the CD/DVD that comes with the computer (Even Apple's technical line couldn't give a good answer).
OS 9 (when sold seperately) included this stuff in the US version on its CD, as an option with custom install.
This answer to this question may have changed from 10.2.x to 10.3.x, so I would appreciate if someone that bought his computer with Panther could respond,
Thank you in advance,
Omer.

chris v · Jul 8, 2004, 04:02 PM

My powerbook came with 10.3 on it, and a search for WorldScript yielded no results.

CV

Brass · Jul 8, 2004, 06:10 PM

No new Macs come with a Classic environment. They come with the Classic component of Mac OS X, but with no actual Classic OS (OS 9) or software. You must by OS 9 separately. This has been the case for a long time now.

Maflynn · Jul 8, 2004, 06:26 PM

I'm not quite sure what Bass is trying to say, poor wording I guess.

The stand alone operating system OS9 is not included with new PBs, iBooks and G5s. Additionally new PBs/iBooks/G5s cannot boot up OS9. That is insert the OS9 disc and boot off of that.

You can load the os9 classic environment and that does come with new purchases. Its usually buried in the additioinal software cd/dvd or the hardware test cd. My G5 had the OS9 environment on the hardware cd.

With the speed of current processors classic is bearable for most needs, but then I have no need for it.

Mike

chris v · Jul 8, 2004, 07:05 PM

Well, my factory install of 10.3 came with a Classic environment installed, which the classic control panel identifies as OS 9.2.1. There's a System Folder at the root level of my drive, full of OS 9-looking stuff, and there's an Applications (OS9) folder, also full of OS 9-looking stuff. This book won't boot from OS 9, but I'm willing to bet that an older machine, like my Cube would. It's still a bootable OS for machines that support it.

That said, none of the files he's looking for appear to be amongst the OS 9 folders on this machine.

CV

Spheric Harlot · Jul 9, 2004, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by Brass:
No new Macs come with a Classic environment. They come with the Classic component of Mac OS X, but with no actual Classic OS (OS 9) or software. You must by OS 9 separately. This has been the case for a long time now.

False.

Classic does not come with OS X when you buy the OS separately, but it DOES come with new machines.

scoot · Jul 10, 2004, 12:19 PM

Look in /Applications (Mac OS 9)/Utilities - there should be a language kit installer.

Catfish_Man · Jul 10, 2004, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by Brass:
No new Macs come with a Classic environment. They come with the Classic component of Mac OS X, but with no actual Classic OS (OS 9) or software. You must by OS 9 separately. This has been the case for a long time now.

Considering the "classic component" is an OS9 system folder, I'm not quite sure what you're talking about...

awaspaas · Jul 10, 2004, 12:45 PM

What about /Applications (Mac OS 9)/Apple Extras/Language Kits/

Omer · Jul 11, 2004, 07:29 AM

Do the language kit installers include a Hebrew one?
Do they come on a computer purchased with Panther?

JKT · Jul 11, 2004, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by Omer:
Do the language kit installers include a Hebrew one?
Do they come on a computer purchased with Panther?

Looking on my recently purchased powerbook they do include a Hebrew one located here:

/Applications (MacOS 9)/Apple Extras/Language Kits/Software Installers/Language Kits/Language Scripts/Hebrew

I am able to launch the Language Kit installer (for MacOS 9) and select Hebrew to install (I didn't go any further than this though).

HTH