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What is 'webcore"
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Jul 22, 2004, 09:45 AM
 
I really dont understand the term: does it offer some speed advantage over the gecko engine of firefox?
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Jul 22, 2004, 04:14 PM
 
Originally posted by tkmd:
does it offer some speed advantage over the gecko engine of firefox?
seems to. but then they're both great these days.
     
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Jul 22, 2004, 04:32 PM
 
Originally posted by tkmd:
I really dont understand the term: does it offer some speed advantage over the gecko engine of firefox?
It's just a different engine. They both have their strengths (webcore is much simpler and smaller, Gecko supports a few more things and is more cross-platform). Webcore is based on the KHTML rendering engine, which is used in a lesser-known open source browser called Konqueror.
     
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Jul 22, 2004, 04:42 PM
 
Konqueror is part of KDE a popular opensource desktop/windowing environment for GNU/Linux and other GNU unixes.
     
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Jul 22, 2004, 06:13 PM
 
webcore is to OS X what Internet Explorer is to windows.
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Jul 22, 2004, 06:16 PM
 
WebCore is the underlying rendering engine. WebKit is the API for browser writers to use.

OmniWeb don't use WebKit. They use WebCore directly, 'cos it allows them to add extra features as they require them. That's why their browser doesn't get the latest rendering engine immediately.

Any WebKit-based browser gets the new rendering engine every time WebKit is updated.


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Jul 22, 2004, 06:18 PM
 
Originally posted by Catfish_Man:
It's just a different engine. They both have their strengths (webcore is much simpler and smaller, Gecko supports a few more things and is more cross-platform). Webcore is based on the KHTML rendering engine, which is used in a lesser-known open source browser called Konqueror.
Is there a feature support comparison somewhere on the net? I'd be interested to know the differences between WebCore + JavaScriptCore 125.x and the most recent Gecko release in terms of standards support...
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Jul 22, 2004, 06:25 PM
 
Originally posted by Link:
webcore is to OS X what Internet Explorer is to windows.
A pre-installed virus tunnel?

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Jul 22, 2004, 06:30 PM
 
Originally posted by gorickey:
A pre-installed virus tunnel?

Interesting.

Thats good. I knew it was only a matter of time till someone posted that.
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Jul 22, 2004, 09:23 PM
 
Originally posted by Link:
webcore is to OS X what Internet Explorer is to windows.
Safari is to OS X what Internet Explorer is to Windows. WebCore is to OS X what Trident is to Windows. It's the rendering engine underneath it all.

Incidentally, something I thought was cool that I found out the other day: KHTML (and thus WebCore) apparently does most its HTML interpretation through CSS. It comes with a set of style sheets that define the effects of the standard tags (<b>, <sub>, etc.). I just thought it was interesting.
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Jul 23, 2004, 05:17 AM
 
Originally posted by Richyfp:
Is there a feature support comparison somewhere on the net? I'd be interested to know the differences between WebCore + JavaScriptCore 125.x and the most recent Gecko release in terms of standards support...
http://www.konqueror.org/features/browser.php
http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/faq.html
     
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Jul 23, 2004, 07:28 AM
 
Originally posted by Chuckit:
Safari is to OS X what Internet Explorer is to Windows. WebCore is to OS X what Trident is to Windows. It's the rendering engine underneath it all.

Incidentally, something I thought was cool that I found out the other day: KHTML (and thus WebCore) apparently does most its HTML interpretation through CSS. It comes with a set of style sheets that define the effects of the standard tags (<b>, <sub>, etc.). I just thought it was interesting.
I believe most modern browsers do that, no? At least WebKit based and Gecko based. Basically:

Users stylesheet > Site stylesheet > Browser stylesheet

And then you get into that whole specifity fun
     
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Jul 23, 2004, 09:34 AM
 
Originally posted by Synotic:
I believe most modern browsers do that, no? At least WebKit based and Gecko based. Basically:

Users stylesheet > Site stylesheet > Browser stylesheet

And then you get into that whole specifity fun
Yep. There is only one tag in HTML whose display cannot be handled by CSS: the humble BR tag. Everything else -even tables- can be reworked entirely in CSS, assuming your browser supports the right display properties (Gecko and WebCore do, Trident and Opera do not).
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