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weird Ø symbol upon reboot after updating
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Aug 14, 2004, 10:33 PM
 
I have a partition on an external firewire hard disk that has a basic system and several disk utilities such as TechTool Pro 4 and DiskWarrior 3.0.2. The other day, I updated that system from 10.3.3 to 10.3.5 using the Combo Updater. When I rebooted, the gray boot screen (with the Apple in the center) was displayed for an unusually long time (usually the delay is related to rebuilding the kernel cache), but finally the Apple symbol was replaced by a "Ø". The boot didn't not proceed further :-)

However, I forced a reboot, and everything was fine on the 2nd try. Does anyone know what might have been wrong the first time? I've never seen that "forbidden" symbol in this context before.
     
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Aug 14, 2004, 10:48 PM
 
I've seen that a few times myself when trying to boot off an external FW disk that didn't have the latest video drivers on it needed to boot the machine; however, that wouldn't explain why you saw it and why it went away after a "force reboot"...
     
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Aug 16, 2004, 05:57 AM
 
Hey !!! Ø is not weird I have Ø in my name
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Aug 16, 2004, 09:38 AM
 
Jørgen?

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Aug 16, 2004, 09:57 AM
 
Usually, that symbol is analogous to what was called a "Sad Mac" in the OS9 days. It usually meant that the system was damaged, usually on a hardware level, and could not boot any further.

I have seen a few circumstances where this has appeared once but then disappeared upon rebooting. I've had it happen a few times on my old Beige G3. What system are you using? Have you upgraded the RAM?
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Aug 16, 2004, 10:30 AM
 
Originally posted by tooki:
Jørgen?

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No, my lastname is Øya... Which is NOT weird !!
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Aug 16, 2004, 10:56 AM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
I have seen a few circumstances where this has appeared once but then disappeared upon rebooting. I've had it happen a few times on my old Beige G3. What system are you using? Have you upgraded the RAM?
PB 15" G4/867, 1 GB RAM (not upgraded). This has only happened once -- and it was while booting from an external firewire hard drive.
     
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Aug 16, 2004, 01:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Millennium:
Usually, that symbol is analogous to what was called a "Sad Mac" in the OS9 days. It usually meant that the system was damaged, usually on a hardware level, and could not boot any further.

I have seen a few circumstances where this has appeared once but then disappeared upon rebooting. I've had it happen a few times on my old Beige G3. What system are you using? Have you upgraded the RAM?
Huh? That symbol is more analogous to the flashing question mark than to the Sad Mac. Not completely analogous, but much closer. It means that something screwed up while trying to load the OS. I'm pretty familiar with this one, as it can come up when trying to boot from a failed attempt at making a boot CD...

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