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Why are the processors working so much while no app needs them?
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I have about no application open, just an instant messenger and Safari, Mail progs ans stuff. My Dual g5 shows me more than 50% average load — activity monitor tells me the application that needs most is using like below 6%.
Menu meters tells me that the green is showing »nice« processor load. What does that mean?
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Use Activity Monitor (in /Applications/Utilities/) or top (from the command line) to see what program is using all the CPU.
"nice" means that a process's priority has been changed (usually to a lower one, so that it only runs when nothing else needs the CPU, though it is also possible to nice a process to high priority). "renice" is the UNIX command to change priority on a program that is already running.
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ya, i know about activity monitor, I was wondering: Macaroni took it all but this is uncommon. When I force-killed the process everything went down to normal, restart Macaroni, everything's good. Just wondered about why the NICE processes were so consuming, normally when my machine works it is the "normal" processes …
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If Macaroni is using so much CPU time, make sure it's not running the maintenance scripts before you force-kill it. Those scripts take a lot of CPU time when they're running, which is part of why they don't just run all the time.
What tooki has said about nice and renice is true, but I'm not exactly sure what "nice load" is, as opposed to other kinds of load. Could someone explain?
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In the CPU monitor, it shows niced processes in their own color.
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From what i understand about the "nice" process, it's a process that will always use the maximum of FREE CPU time.
That's mean that if your mac is idle without doing someone usefull, this process will max the CPU and from the moment you will start working with it, the process will reduce itself to the minimum to give your app the max cpu time it needs.
So it seems to me normal that a maintenance software will max your cpu during the idle time to not disturb you during your real work.
You can relax, everything is fine and seeing green won't affect the performances of your computer.
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If that's the case, then if most of the load is nice load (as it appears to be in your case) then there is no need to worry. Your CPU will be able to free up that portion of its load if it needs to do so.
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Originally posted by Millennium:
If that's the case, then if most of the load is nice load (as it appears to be in your case) then there is no need to worry. Your CPU will be able to free up that portion of its load if it needs to do so.
In my case I watched something that was uncommon. I use Macaroni since months but haven't seen this before, I presume a process hung. In general (nicing): thanx for the explanations!
I didn't worry actuall that I won't be able to work due to system overload, but why use unnecessary energy on a bug? If I don't do anything (and my Mac wasn't told to do so, not even by Macaroni) then my processors are not allowed to work 
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