[bradb28]

Thsi being my first mac, an iMac G5 1.6GHz 1GB ram and so on, what are the necessary steps to updating to tiger... other than purchasing it and stickin it into the drive, any pre-installation steps?
Thanks everyone

[CharlesS]

1. Ignore all the 4,237-step methods full of unnecessary crap that certain people will post

2. Put CD (or DVD) 1 in the drive

3. Start with the C key down

4. If you use some programs that dump files in /System (like Norton, which puts crap in /System/Library/Extensions) and you want to get rid of the third party junk, or if you want to preserve your current system, then you might want to choose Archive and Install - otherwise, don't worry about it

5. Follow the steps in the Installer

6. Wait a while

7. Reboot

8. Run Software Update (although if you get Tiger right after it comes out, probably nothing will show up!)

[betasp]

Best Method IMO

1) Backup files off mac
2)Pop in Tiger dvd(cd)
3)restart computer and hold down c key for booting to the cd
4)open disc utility and reformat drive
5)install tiger
6)run updates
7)copy files back to mac

[CharlesS]

Reformatting is overkill for most people. It's also a pain since you have to restore all your data, reinstall all your apps, etc.

It makes it like installing Windows.

[Link]

Yes, but I found one of the biggest culprits in the lookupd problems was to actually use archive and install, no idea why...

My favorite way is to dump my home folder onto an external drive, possibly apps folder and maybe /library.. and nuke + repave... (aka install from scratch) -- fresh machine and when I dump the home folder (MINUS preferences to keep down on issues), it works as it should

[NeXTLoop]

I'm another fan of format and reinstall method. I've ran into problems with previous versions of OS X when trying to just upgrade from one major revision to another. That being said, I know plenty of people who have had no problems too.

But for me personally, I like having a new system, with no chance of their being any conflicts from some remnant of an old system. Plus its a good opportunity to do some spring cleaning.

Just my two cents...

[LightWaver-67]

I wish there were a way to identify the "ghosts-in-the-machines" and quantify how & why some computers have issues and others not. With my previous G4... it had gone from OS9 > OSX Beta > OSX Retail all updates up until 10.3.x and I've always just done an update.

I never had any slow-downs... crashes or Kernel Panics... had 6 external FireWire drives plugged in for each update and never encountered the dreaded FireWire erasure problems.

I am not saying that I am "special"... but I am lucky, that's for sure. But what is it about my machine that it was problem-free... or what is it about the "other" machines that they do NOT like updates...?

I mean, it has to be either a software/OS conflict... hardware issue... or both. (right?)

All I know is... I now have a NEW G5 that I used the "clone" tool built-in for migrating my G4 data to my G5 and when Tiger comes out... you gessed it. I'm gonna tempt fate and just update. But THIS time, I will disconnect the FireWire drives... "Just-in-case".

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by NeXTLoop:
I'm another fan of format and reinstall method. I've ran into problems with previous versions of OS X when trying to just upgrade from one major revision to another. That being said, I know plenty of people who have had no problems too.

But for me personally, I like having a new system, with no chance of their being any conflicts from some remnant of an old system. Plus its a good opportunity to do some spring cleaning.

Just my two cents...

Archive and Install will give you a completely new system. The only thing from your old setup that will not be completely new will be non-OS things like your home folder.

[BrettOZ]

Originally posted by NeXTLoop:
Plus its a good opportunity to do some spring cleaning.

Could not agree more

[Big Mac]

Originally posted by Link:
Yes, but I found one of the biggest culprits in the lookupd problems was to actually use archive and install, no idea why...

That does not appear to make much sense at all.

[Randman]

Avoid Norton at all costs!

Also, when doing an install, click on Customize. You can prune some of the stuff you don't need, printer drivers for printers you don't own, language packs, perhaps an app or two (such as iDVD if you don't have a SuperDrive or external burner).

[goMac]

Personally I use erase/install.

However, its overkill for most people. When I move my girlfriend's iBook to Tiger I will be using upgrade install.

[OreoCookie]

1. Backup your data.
2. Install. (You can safely use the migration assistant, you do not need to wipe your disk, unless you have problems with your old install.)

Note that this applies to all OS X installs.

[Starry Night]

Originally posted by CharlesS:
1. Ignore all the 4,237-step methods full of unnecessary crap that certain people will post

2. Put CD (or DVD) 1 in the drive

3. Start with the C key down

4. If you use some programs that dump files in /System (like Norton, which puts crap in /System/Library/Extensions) and you want to get rid of the third party junk, or if you want to preserve your current system, then you might want to choose Archive and Install - otherwise, don't worry about it

5. Follow the steps in the Installer

6. Wait a while

7. Reboot

8. Run Software Update (although if you get Tiger right after it comes out, probably nothing will show up!)

Hi Charles,

Should one repair permissions any where in there? And if so, is it just the straight repair permissions or the RP on the boot disk? (I think that's the right question

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by Starry Night:
Hi Charles,

Should one repair permissions any where in there? And if so, is it just the straight repair permissions or the RP on the boot disk? (I think that's the right question

Repair Permissions resets the permissions on your files to the state they were in when you first installed the OS. Since "when you first installed the OS" will be equal to "right now" after you finish these steps, repairing permissions would be a little silly.

[Starry Night]

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Repair Permissions resets the permissions on your files to the state they were in when you first installed the OS. Since "when you first installed the OS" will be equal to "right now" after you finish these steps, repairing permissions would be a little silly.

Thanks Charles. Is the "always repair permissions before you update" and urban legend? I've read it over and over on these boards.

[Randman]

Originally posted by Starry Night:
Thanks Charles. Is the "always repair permissions before you update" and urban legend? I've read it over and over on these boards.

It can't hurt.

[Goldfinger]

Originally posted by Starry Night:
Thanks Charles. Is the "always repair permissions before you update" and urban legend? I've read it over and over on these boards.

It's not an urban legend but it doesn't do miracles either. Doing it doesn't hurt you so why not do it when you feel you should do it. Repair permissions only fixes things in some circumstances.

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by Starry Night:
Thanks Charles. Is the "always repair permissions before you update" and urban legend? I've read it over and over on these boards.

You only need to run Repair Permissions if you have a problem that's being caused by permissions. You don't need to run it regularly, you don't need to run it before or after installing the OS, and you don't need to run it before or after running Software Update. It doesn't really do all that much and generally isn't worth the time, despite the cult following it seems to have.

Basically, don't worry about Repair Permissions unless you're having a problem.

[JHromadka]

The Installing Mac OS X Drinking Game

• When the installer stops and requires keyboard/mouse input, take a drink
• When you have to change discs, take 2 drinks
• If you read the EULA completely, take 3 drinks before you finish reading
• If you spend more than 10 seconds on any one screen, take a drink
• If you have to reboot more than once, finish your drink completely

Enjoy!

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by JHromadka:
The Installing Mac OS X Drinking Game[list][*]When you have to change discs, take 2 drinks

Since Tiger comes on a DVD-ROM, there shouldn't be any changing discs.

[JHromadka]

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Since Tiger comes on a DVD-ROM, there shouldn't be any changing discs.

I'm penalizing the iBook users that are CD Only and have to pay the $9.95 to get the CDs.

[OreoCookie]

Currently, there are two other threads about how to upgrade to Tiger. I'm gonna close down two of them, so please all post in the remaining one.