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Cody Dawg · May 7, 2005, 11:59 AM

I need Panther back. I don't like Tiger, not the way it is. Under Safari certain LETTERS aren't appearing. Not only that, I send a lot of .pdf files under Panther to people and I get those .pdf files by doing a screenshot (Apple + Shift + 3) and now when I do that they aren't .pdf files but are instead .png files and I need .pdf files.

So, I need to remove Tiger but how do I remove it and put Panther back on?

I'm on a PowerBook G4, BTW.

TETENAL · May 7, 2005, 12:03 PM

Make your screenshots using Preview.app. It now has screenshot functionality in the File menu. You can then save the screenshot in any format you like (PDF that is in your case).

Safari shows all LETTERS. It works fine unless you have weird "enhancer" hacks installed or maybe a font problem.

Archive & Install might work to go back to Panther, or not. Mail of Panther certainly wouldn't be able to backconvert the new mail format for example.

Stradlater · 12:30 PM

1. You can make a PDF anywhere by going to the "Print..." screen and saving as a PDF. Doing this might add a step if you need to open the PNG in Preview, first. Though in Preview, you can just "Save as..." PDF, instead.

For a one-step solution: you could also download the screenshot Widget that has a setting for which file format outputs. The big question is, however, why would you need screenshots to be in PDF format? PDF is most for things that are page-size and with text. Like reports, press releases, etc... What's wrong with PNG?

[EDIT: Capture widget available here.]

2. What letters aren't appearing? Is this IN Safari or is it when you copy-paste elsewhere? Ex. for us? (BTW, Safari 1.3, in Panther, uses the same web engine as 2.0, I believe).

3. I don't think it's possible to downgrade unless you clean-install. You could possibly archive-and-install, however.

4. Tiger is a great deal better, stick with it.

Cadaver · May 7, 2005, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I need Panther back. I don't like Tiger, not the way it is. Under Safari certain LETTERS aren't appearing. Not only that, I send a lot of .pdf files under Panther to people and I get those .pdf files by doing a screenshot (Apple + Shift + 3) and now when I do that they aren't .pdf files but are instead .png files and I need .pdf files.

So, I need to remove Tiger but how do I remove it and put Panther back on?

I'm on a PowerBook G4, BTW.

I can't believe you're pulling Tiger's feeding tube already. I mean, you barely gave it any time to recover. Perhaps with the right therapy, it could get better.

Cody Dawg · May 7, 2005, 12:34 PM

TETENAL:

Make your screenshots using Preview.app. It now has screenshot functionality in the File menu. You can then save the screenshot in any format you like (PDF that is in your case).

How? I see no way to do that.

(Yes, I have blonde hair.)

STRADLATER: Yes, that works - thank you!

CADAVER: I'm not going to, actually. I do think it's a great deal better than Panther - no doubt about it - but I am accustomed to doing things a certain way and the .pdf with a screenshot click of the buttons was something I used a lot to send pics to people/clients. Weird, but that's the way it is.

Thanks!

Kristoff · May 7, 2005, 12:36 PM

Those are non-issues.

Both are easily solved. Check your Text Encoding settings in Safari, and used Preview to do your screen caps.

TETENAL · May 7, 2005, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

TETENAL: How? I see no way to do that.

(Yes, I have blonde hair.)

You open the application "Preview" than you open its File menu and from the Grab menu in there you select the type of screenshot you want to make. When you have the screenshot you choose Save As from the same menu and select PDF in the format popup of the save dialog.

ASIMO · May 7, 2005, 12:49 PM

Remove Tiger without reformatting? Looks like you are SOL, ma'am. We are at the top of the big cats food chain with Tiger. Until Apple releases 10.5 Pack of Wild Dogs or 10.6 Liger, you will simply have to dig in and bear it.

Randman · May 7, 2005, 12:54 PM

Mail is soooo much better in Tiger, especially if you're going to mail photos. You can send actual web pages and you have the option to resize photos on the fly in Mail 2.0 without altering the master file.

CharlesS · May 7, 2005, 01:17 PM

Why on earth do you actually want the screenshots to be PDF?!

Anyway, you can either use Preview's new screenshot features, or you can do what all the rest of us did in 10.3 to avoid getting the screenshot as a PDF:

1. Add a "control" key to the screenshot key combo you use - i.e., Command-Shift-4 becomes Command-Control-Shift-4. This saves a copy of the picture into the clipboard.

2. Open Preview and choose "New from Clipboard" from the File menu (or type Command-N).

3. Save as whatever format you like.

Randman · May 7, 2005, 01:33 PM

I posted this in Cody's other thread, but there's a widget called Capture that lets you save screenshots in a variety of formats. PDFs aren't one of them but then again, I'd hate to get a screenshot as a PDF from someone.

MrForgetable · May 7, 2005, 03:43 PM

haha i'm wondering this too. tiger has driven my wireless network insane.

mitchell_pgh · May 7, 2005, 05:57 PM

Another idea, create an automater thing that changes the PNG to a PDF and opens mail and places the new PDF in a new email.

You lose one step bug gain another.

Stradlater · May 8, 2005, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

Another idea, create an automater thing that changes the PNG to a PDF and opens mail and places the new PDF in a new email.

You lose one step bug gain another.

Cody Dawg · May 8, 2005, 04:50 AM

THANKS TETENAL!

Your way of doing things is EXACTLY the way I want to do things.

I sent a .png file to someone yesterday without knowing it was a .png file and they emailed back saying, "What file format are you using? We cannot open it." I sent it again. Then they said they still couldn't open it. That's when I noticed it. I was like, "Well, I guess Windows people can't open .png files?"

But, then I learned to do it TETENAL's way and I also sent some files to our home PC and it turns out that the PC folks can receive the .png format just fine. I don't know why those people cannot open the .png file. Everyone else seems to be able to.

Thanks for all of your replies. I learned a lot!

workerbee · May 8, 2005, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by Kristoff

Check your Text Encoding settings in Safari (snip)

It may not be quite as easy as this. I recently posted this -- interestingly, the same pages renders without a problem on Safari today, without any changes to text encoding settings, with Lucida Grande @ 11pt.
What has changed in the meantime? New version of PithHelmet, new prefs for Safari because my Powerbook crashes about twice a day since I've installed Tiger (it refuses to wake up properly about 50% + of the time) and once even lost all pref files of all apps that were open at the time (Dock, Launchbar, Safari + PithHelmet, Mail, WebConfidential...).
Since about 1 hour ago (latest wake-up to black screen -> forced reboot crash) my internet access has become extremely slow at times; probably related to what MacFixit is reporting.

I've now set Energy saver to never go to sleep while the power adapter is attached: this will probably reduce the crashes, leaving only those that happen when I try to wake up the Powerbook when it is operating with battery power.

As nice as Tiger is -- I'm beginning to miss 10.3.9 rock-stable operation.