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AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 10:39 AM

Alright heres the deal.

My PC windows XP is dead. I don't really know why but I can safley say its majorly screwed. It keeps shutting down no multpiul virues scanners, spyware/adware, and even a few system restores did anything to help it.

So I'm trying to convert it to a mac. I have a G3 which im on. SO naturally I have a G3 boot disc... I put the boot disc into the computer and I get some, just one screen black and white dos that doesn't really say much of anything:

INTEL numbers... acelleracted bios
build numer: numers, 02/24/03 16:02:29
DECOMPLIATION OR DISSASEMBLY PROHIBITED
copyright blah blah blah

anyway around that

analogika · May 25, 2005, 10:44 AM

what?

mpancha · May 25, 2005, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

Alright heres the deal.

My PC windows XP is dead. I don't really know why but I can safley say its majorly screwed. It keeps shutting down no multpiul virues scanners, spyware/adware, and even a few system restores did anything to help it.

So I'm trying to convert it to a mac. I have a G3 which im on. SO naturally I have a G3 boot disc... I put the boot disc into the computer and I get some, just one screen black and white dos that doesn't really say much of anything:

INTEL numbers... acelleracted bios
build numer: numers, 02/24/03 16:02:29
DECOMPLIATION OR DISSASEMBLY PROHIBITED
copyright blah blah blah

anyway around that

so you're trying to install Mac OS on your PC?

wataru · May 25, 2005, 10:49 AM

Could someone hit this guy with a cluestick?

ManOfSteal · May 25, 2005, 10:51 AM

[Checks Calendar]

Nope, not April 1st.

[/Checks Calendar]

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 10:53 AM

well I had some other boot disc part fo a 2 disc thing for windows in and now it won't even say that after I took it out.

... sigh

Disassemble the computer? mabey put these 2 computers and make them one?

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 10:56 AM

yes im trying to install the MAC OS on my compaq

eitherways if you don't have anything relativly helpful to say why are you even posting? Obviously I dunno WTF im doing otherwise I wouldn't be asking anyone for help.

DarwinX · May 25, 2005, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

yes im trying to install the MAC OS on my compaq

eitherways if you don't have anything relativly helpful to say why are you even posting? Obviously I dunno WTF im doing otherwise I wouldn't be asking anyone for help.

You cannot use the G3 boot disc on your PC, nor can you install the Mac OS on a PC as a bootable OS.

If I were you I'd try cleaning up the PC first. Boot into safe-mode on your PC. Run the standard spyware/adware/virus removal tools such as: Ad-aware SE 1.05, Spybot Search and Destroy, Spy Sweeper, McAfee's Stinger Removal Tool and install some anti-virus software. While in safe-mode also modify your msconfig which can be found by going to the "Start" button, then choose "Run" type in "msconfig" without the quotes and click the "Ok" button and look in the starup list and remove everything you don't need. This list can be quite helpful in this process: http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php

If all else fails, do you have your Windows XP CD or a restore CD? Best of luck.

mpancha · May 25, 2005, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

yes im trying to install the MAC OS on my compaq

eitherways if you don't have anything relativly helpful to say why are you even posting? Obviously I dunno WTF im doing otherwise I wouldn't be asking anyone for help.

relax. I asked if u were trying to put a mac os on a pc to clarify for everyone what you were asking. None of us got it.

Anyways, you can't put Mac OS on a PC b/c it isn't designed to run on a PC. The closest you can get is installing "darwin". For more info on that, google will bring up a lot of links on it. But otherwise, you can't really put a Mac OS on a PC.

Hope that helps.

Big Mac · May 25, 2005, 11:09 AM

If this thread is real, this is by far the funniest Mac related thread ever!

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 11:12 AM

Thats weird.. because I was looking at the install requirements for the mac os 10.3 and it said that "these are the requirements for a mac" and "theses are the requirements for a non-mac" to install the os onto the system. So it sounds like you can install it on other systems. Oh well, guess not.

What about taking the 2 computers apart and putting them together? I heard the hardwares pretty much the same (which is also why I assumed I could run a mac os on it.)

I do have a windowsinstall disc, its not working either. My other computers dead =(

ManOfSteal · May 25, 2005, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

Thats weird.. because I was looking at the install requirements for the mac os 10.3 and it said that "these are the requirements for a mac" and "theses are the requirements for a non-mac"...

No it didn't.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 11:19 AM

i know what I read dude I'm NOT here for an argument ok

I'm here to get some help. Any answers to installing my harddrive/ram discs from my old pc to my mac?

Randman · May 25, 2005, 11:22 AM

Ah c'mon people, quit pulling this person's leg. You can install MAC OS on a Windows PC but it takes a few steps. And you have to convert the voltage since MAC OS runs on a different wattage, which is why PCs and Macs have differing numbers when it comes to specs.

ManOfSteal · May 25, 2005, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

i know what I read dude I'm NOT here for an argument ok

Out of curiosity, what are the Apple specificed "System Requirements for Non-Mac"?

eevyl · May 25, 2005, 11:25 AM

First First!!!

It's "Mac" not "MAC". MAC is the acronym for Media Access Control, Mac is the shorthand for Macintosh.

Randman · 11:37 AM

See, this what the op wanted.

Link.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 11:36 AM

Change the voltage... no clue how to do that.

and to the other person who asked about the page that said that, I don't feel like going out of my way to go look for the page that said the system requirements for the os install just to continue some argument with you I never wanted in the first place. You either belive me or you don't.

DarwinX · May 25, 2005, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

See, this what the op wanted.

I was wondering how long such a screen shot would take to appear.

Wow, best of luck with that PC/Mac Mashup....it'll be better than Linkin Park and Jay-Z!!

I'm not trying to be an a$$ dude, but by the sounds of it you've had some bad luck related to computers. Buy a new one, take the old one to get it fixed or the like. Just my 2 cents.

Catfish_Man · May 25, 2005, 11:41 AM

The hard drive, graphics card, stuff like that are pretty much the same (the graphics card has a different rom, but similar hardware). The motherboard and processor are quite different, and incompatible.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 11:41 AM

actually I can fix most computer problems this ones just completley messed up.

DarwinX · May 25, 2005, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

or you don't.

Check.

DarwinX · May 25, 2005, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

actually I can fix most computer problems this ones just completley messed up.

Can you describe the issue the PC is having? That would help a great deal.

Randman · May 25, 2005, 11:54 AM

I'm probably going to hell for puling the op's leg but in a bout of guilt, I came clean.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 11:58 AM

I figured you guys don't know much about windows because I'm on a mac forum. Eitherways if you want to know what problems the computers having is this:

It started messing up restarting itself alot, ok.. ran a system recovery because I have a dual drive (d:/ drive specifically for computer restoration). It kept doing it. I have updated running anti-viruses (2), antispyware, antiadware ect ect all up to date nothing picked up anything.

I tried system recovery again, and it shut down in the middle of it, once and a while before that when it restarted other screens would pop up as they ocassionally if I try to run system recovery again it will say something like it.

If I try to start the system right now, it will say this:

either the Intel Decompilation or dissasembly prohibited as posted in the first post. OR NTLDR is missing press control alt delete to restart

If I attempt to run system recovery again it will either restart itself or pop up a message that says something like this:

A problemem detected windows show down to prevent damadge

the problem seems to be caused by the following file ntfs.sys

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen:

0X00000050 (0x848CCCE, 0x00000000, 0xF8152EA2, 0x000000_

NTFS.SYS - ADRESS F8152EA2 BASE AT F8133000, DATE STA,[ 3B5E36A9

____

disabile unintall disk fragmentation/backup utilities check hardd rive configuration.. updated drivers run CHKDSK /F to check for harddrive cooroption

________

If I put the windows system recovery disc in it will tell me to press anykey to boot from it, then it will say something like checking your system hardware..... and it won't get past that screen.

Before I could get passed it, but it would freeze up while it was loading and show me one of those blue screens again.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 12:04 PM

and I looked up the page I couldn't find it, but something like it

http://oit.uta.edu/desktop/software/Apple/macos103.htm

my friend said that the OTI or the other reqirements that weren't labled APPLE mean for a non apple system. He told me I could install the os on other systems.

kmkkid · May 25, 2005, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

I figured you guys don't know much about windows because I'm on a mac forum. Eitherways if you want to know what problems the computers having is this:

It started messing up restarting itself alot, ok.. ran a system recovery because I have a dual drive (d:/ drive specifically for computer restoration). It kept doing it. I have updated running anti-viruses (2), antispyware, antiadware ect ect all up to date nothing picked up anything.

I tried system recovery again, and it shut down in the middle of it, once and a while before that when it restarted other screens would pop up as they ocassionally if I try to run system recovery again it will say something like it.

If I try to start the system right now, it will say this:

either the Intel Decompilation or dissasembly prohibited as posted in the first post. OR NTLDR is missing press control alt delete to restart

If I attempt to run system recovery again it will either restart itself or pop up a message that says something like this:

A problemem detected windows show down to prevent damadge

the problem seems to be caused by the following file ntfs.sys

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

If this is the first time you've seen this Stop error screen:

0X00000050 (0x848CCCE, 0x00000000, 0xF8152EA2, 0x000000_

NTFS.SYS - ADRESS F8152EA2 BASE AT F8133000, DATE STA,[ 3B5E36A9

____

disabile unintall disk fragmentation/backup utilities check hardd rive configuration.. updated drivers run CHKDSK /F to check for harddrive cooroption

________

If I put the windows system recovery disc in it will tell me to press anykey to boot from it, then it will say something like checking your system hardware..... and it won't get past that screen.

Before I could get passed it, but it would freeze up while it was loading and show me one of those blue screens again.

Format the drive and reinstall. Sounds as if your installation has been corrupted.

Oh, and "A problemem detected windows show down to prevent damadge"

would most likely have looked like: "Windows has detected a problem and has shut down to prevent further damage" or somewheres more along those lines.

AuroraManson · 12:34 PM

yea that was the first line, when I posted it I just copied what I wrote down for my own personal refrence. System recoverys actually running now at 70% (crosses fingers). Even so it still kept screwing up anyway.

I'm not sure how to format a drive.

It finished, and ran some scan on its own now its starting up, it worked last time though then kept messing up when it was running hopefully it will start this time

mpancha · May 25, 2005, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

See, this what the op wanted.

Link.

wont he need windows running to get Pear PC to work?

alphasubzero949 · May 25, 2005, 01:17 PM

Cliff Notes for the thread: His PC went "beep beep beep beep" and ate his paper. A really good one too. Now he's trying to put a Mac on a PC.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 01:25 PM

Im a girl dudes

ManOfSteal · May 25, 2005, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

my friend said that the OTI or the other reqirements that weren't labled APPLE mean for a non apple system. He told me I could install the os on other systems.

Your friend lied.

TETENAL · May 25, 2005, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

So I'm trying to convert it to a mac.

Converting a PC to a Mac is easy. Open the case, rip out the interior, and glue this behind the CD-slot.

goMac · May 25, 2005, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

and I looked up the page I couldn't find it, but something like it

http://oit.uta.edu/desktop/software/Apple/macos103.htm

my friend said that the OTI or the other reqirements that weren't labled APPLE mean for a non apple system. He told me I could install the os on other systems.

OIT is the name of the place, thats what they recommend students use. Even then, it lists a PowerPC processor as a requirement. No PC has one.

You can't load Mac OS on a PC.

chris v · May 25, 2005, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

and I looked up the page I couldn't find it, but something like it

http://oit.uta.edu/desktop/software/Apple/macos103.htm

my friend said that the OTI or the other reqirements that weren't labled APPLE mean for a non apple system. He told me I could install the os on other systems.

"OIT Required
N/A (this is a base OS)
Processor Macintosh PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 processor..."

Your machine has either an AMD or an Intel processor, that is not a PowerPC. Totally different kind of processor. The word "Macintosh" in that description above implies that not only does your machine need a PowerPC type processor (Made by Motorola/Freescale or IBM) but it also needs to be manufactured by Apple Computer, the only company currently producing Macintosh compatible hardware. your friend was just plain wrong. Period.

DarwinX · May 25, 2005, 01:51 PM

I am a PC tech.

Something hosed your Operating System load. Possibly a virus, as those are known to put themselves in the Recovery portion thereby even if you do a recovery, you're still affected by the virus. This is why most businesses/educational institutions or the like disable the recovery feature.

I hope the Recovery works for you, but the best solution is to do what was already stated. Reformat and reinstall. If you cannot use your Restore CD, find someone with a Windows XP CD and first off try to do a repair. DO NOT use the first screen that prompts you to press "R" to repair, this is what you've been doing already. Skip that "R" at this screen and continue as if it were a normal Windows XP install. When you get to the point to pick which drive to install it on, another option to "Repair" will show up. This is the option you want to use. If you are unable to do this, use the Windowx XP CD to erase the partition that is hosed and create a new one, and then install XP as you normally would or use your restore CD. If you cannot get the PC to boot off the CD to accomplish this, find a machine you can make a Win98 startup disk with, and then boot off this floppy to fdisk(reformat) the hard drive and try the Windows XP install once again.

Best steps I can type up quickly while at work. Best of luck.

Chuckit · May 25, 2005, 02:12 PM

Mac OS X will not boot a PC intended to run Windows. The processor is completely incompatible. Anybody who tells you different is pulling your leg. You'll want to reinstall Windows.

ghporter · May 25, 2005, 05:01 PM

Aurora, it is NOT POSSIBLE to load a Mac OS on PC hardware. The processor chips are completely incompatible-it just will not work. A lot of people on this thread have taken your request for help as a joke-those things happen here-and they joked around.

As DarwinX said, you should reformat your PC's drive and try to reload Windows from scratch. I recommend using the NTFS format, as this system is more robust, and will hold up better while you're using it than any of the FAT formats.

milhous · May 25, 2005, 05:15 PM

go on ebay and get a copy of OpenStep for Intel.

mpancha · May 25, 2005, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Aurora, it is NOT POSSIBLE to load a Mac OS on PC hardware. The processor chips are completely incompatible-it just will not work. A lot of people on this thread have taken your request for help as a joke-those things happen here-and they joked around.

As DarwinX said, you should reformat your PC's drive and try to reload Windows from scratch. I recommend using the NTFS format, as this system is more robust, and will hold up better while you're using it than any of the FAT formats.

yup, and once u get windows up and running, then it is possible to load OSX via PearPC

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 05:51 PM

thanks DarwinX It keeps restarting itself now so its a bit hard to reformat. I'll try to get to a dos screen somehow though.

What if I installed my g3 processor into my pc or my pc parts into the g3? Would I be able to transpher ram/disk space?

whats pear pc exactly? I'll look it up later if you don't wish to explain

- - e r i k - - · May 25, 2005, 06:01 PM

This thread is just weird, but in a good way....

You can not build your own mac, it's not as "easy" as transplanting a PPC onto a PC motherboard. Completely different architectures. What you want is to completely reinstall windows on your existing PC and/or get a mac. I suggest a mac mini with a Keyboard and Monitor switch for using with your existing equipment. Best of both worlds.

Good luck

- - e r i k - - · May 25, 2005, 06:01 PM

Oh, and PearPC is an emulator that lets you emulate a PPC on your Intel/AMD hardware. It's dead slow and not usable for much.

Tyler McAdams · May 25, 2005, 07:34 PM

Back when the G3 first came out there were 3rd party companies that sold computers with compatible hardware to host the Mac OS. One company was Umax... google it with PowerPC and you'll see a computer that's not a Mac that runs Mac software.. Anyway, when you see Apple requirements, and then other requirements, it could be referring to those relics. Third party companies are no longer allowed to make systems due to Apple's license. So if your disk is old enough, it might be referring to those computers.

Big Mac · May 25, 2005, 07:53 PM

It's not referring to that, Tyler. OS X never officially supported the Mac clones, all of which fell short of the G3 minimum requirement anyway.

TomR · May 25, 2005, 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=AuroraManson]thanks DarwinX It keeps restarting itself now so its a bit hard to reformat. I'll try to get to a dos screen somehow though.

What if I installed my g3 processor into my pc or my pc parts into the g3? Would I be able to transpher ram/disk space?

/QUOTE]

I believe this post is a troll.

You can't install a Mac OS on a regular PC. You can't take PPC processor and stick it in a regular PC. You need to find a good Windows forum and ask there.

My suggestion is to reformat and install Winblows from scratch.

Good luck.

Tom

nbn22385 · May 25, 2005, 10:00 PM

Bad ram maybe? Constant restarts are often caused by faulty memory. If it restarts before you get into windows then that's what i would say.

edit: If you added ram since the purchase, remove that and try running the computer with only the original ram. Or reverse that process and run only with the other ram.

alphasubzero949 · May 25, 2005, 10:31 PM

Sticking a G3 in a PC?

Either the OP is really a tool, or a troll...

I'm losing IQ points every time I read the subsequent replies. Next thing you know she'll ask where the "any" key is.

AuroraManson · May 25, 2005, 11:48 PM

the arrogance on this board amazes me, please leave your ego's at the door.

I turned off system restore and my computer stopped messing up so its isolated there.

villalobos · May 26, 2005, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by AuroraManson

the arrogance on this board amazes me, please leave your ego's at the door.

I turned off system restore and my computer stopped messing up so its isolated there.

Dude,

you first wrote

actually I can fix most computer problems this ones just completley messed up.

then you come back with

I'm not sure how to format a drive.

Don't get me wrong, that's good entertainment.