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rotuts · Jul 4, 2005, 11:31 AM

Ive tried to search this to no effect

I thought i saw something about running widgets as small apps in 10.3.9 but maybe not

can this be done? Im waiting for one app to change before I go over to 10.4.1 ( AlchemyDVR paly list)

thanks rotuts

Randman · Jul 4, 2005, 11:56 AM

Amnesty.

ManOfSteal · Jul 4, 2005, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

Amnesty.

Fixed by MOS.®

Randman · Jul 4, 2005, 01:06 PM

timmerk · Jul 4, 2005, 03:35 PM

You don't want widgets. Trust me. Dashboard/Spotlight sucks. 10.4 sucks.

rotuts · Jul 4, 2005, 03:48 PM

Well thanks all.

I guess some might not like widgets, or 10.4

but Ive put amnesty on my 10.3.9 and run a widget called 'Gas' and save 25 to 30 cent / gal of gas.

I have to buy gas anyway and go by these places. thats about a 10% savings.

soon enough $$ for a new G6, with 18 gazillion processors and no fan!

rotuts

Randman · Jul 5, 2005, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by timmerk

You don't want widgets. Trust me. Dashboard/Spotlight sucks. 10.4 sucks.

You suck.

timmerk · Jul 5, 2005, 01:08 AM

Yes, I suck. That's it.

Randman · Jul 5, 2005, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by timmerk

Yes, I suck. That's it.

Considering you are trolling around spouting nonsense. You had a bad experience with the install? Boo-hoo. Most people are using Tiger just fine, thank you. So, either you screwed up somehow and are blaming the OS or you simply had a bad experience. Try to fix the situation even if it means a clean install.

If not, take your garbage elsewhere. You've already had one thread locked.

timmerk · Jul 5, 2005, 01:13 AM

Most people!? Ha ha ha. Have you not looked around the forums? Everyone hates it and are having problems. My whole family has had problems. Everyone that comes into the Apple store has had problems - a lot more then 10.3.

Randman · Jul 5, 2005, 02:36 AM

Everyone? No. Some people are having problems. I have Tiger on two Macs at home and zero problems. For me, 10.4.0 was more stable than the issues in 10.3.9.

And are you comparing 10.4.0 and 10.4.1 with 10.3.0 and 10.3.1? I don't think so. Those versions were very buggy as well.

timmerk · Jul 5, 2005, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

And are you comparing 10.4.0 and 10.4.1 with 10.3.0 and 10.3.1? I don't think so. Those versions were very buggy as well.

listen, smart guy - why would i compare to 10.3.0? should i compare it to system 1? If 10.3.9 fixed problems, why should 10.4 get them back from 10.3.0 days? you need to think these type of things through, my son.

Randman · Jul 5, 2005, 03:03 AM

No, you should think them through. You weren't forced to buy Tiger. You could stay at any OS you wanted. You could have waited for a few revisions to work any bugs out. You didn't and through a stroke of bad luck, you had a bad experience.

Now, you're whining and crying like a baby in every thread."Tiger sucks. Tiger sucks. Everyone hates it."

Well, Tiger doesn't suck. It has a few bugs but what OS doesn't? Everyone doesn't hate it. Sure, it sucks that you had a bad run with it but that doesn't justify your crying over it and throwing a temper tantrum like a three-year-old girl.

Superchicken · Jul 5, 2005, 03:08 AM

If you go by the support requests then OS X must be far buggier than Windows I mean... how many threads do you see requesting help for that? For the record, I had my first problem with Tiger the other day it hadn't indexed a contact car from my address book. I fixed it by hitting edit on the card. Now back to Zero problems

Peabo · Jul 5, 2005, 04:36 AM

I love tiger

eddiecatflap · Jul 5, 2005, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by timmerk

You don't want widgets. Trust me. Dashboard/Spotlight sucks. 10.4 sucks.

he's right , you know

10.3.9 is an utterly AMAZING os and is my all time fave

don't bother wasting your dough on tiger until you HAVE to

Randman · Jul 5, 2005, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by eddiecatflap

he's right , you know

10.3.9 is an utterly AMAZING os and is my all time fave

don't bother wasting your dough on tiger until you HAVE to

No, he's quite wrong.

moonmonkey · Jul 5, 2005, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by timmerk

My whole family has had problems.

Please keep your family problems in the lounge.

Randman · Jul 5, 2005, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by moonmonkey

Please keep your family problems in the lounge.

Post of the week™.

eddiecatflap · Jul 5, 2005, 06:04 AM

IF tiger's so flipping amazing , why is everyone waiting in anticipation for 10.4.2 ?

i'll tell you WHY

it's because 10.4.1 is a half assed rushed out **** up , that's WHY

moonmonkey · 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

Post of the week™.

Did you see his other posts from today

http://forums.macnn.com/search.php?searchid=202383

He's been having a really bad day, suspect he was only online why his night-vision goggles were charging up.

He's in the park now...

jamil5454 · Jul 5, 2005, 08:32 AM

Tiger's given me no problems here. But I wouldn't have bought it as an upgrade to 10.3.9. I don't really use Tiger's new features much (except Dashboard), but it came with my PowerMac.

The thing is, you'll have to upgrade to Tiger sooner or later if you want the newest versions of all Mac software.

And timmerk, exactly what kind of problems are you having that makes Tiger so evil? Did you lose your job because of Tiger? Your wife?

rotuts · Jul 5, 2005, 10:40 AM

Well civilityy aside, I would like to hear what porblems exactly people have had, even Tim!

as Ive said I have to wait for an app to 'update' and onlly run it on an ext HD

rotut

tooki · Jul 5, 2005, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by timmerk

Most people!? Ha ha ha. Have you not looked around the forums? Everyone hates it and are having problems

Newsflash: this is a support forum. People come here because they have a problem -- all the people who DON'T have trouble aren't here, they're off enjoying their system.

The same applies to the Apple store Genius Bar -- people don't go there to chit-chat, they go there to get their problems solved, and when everything works, they're not there!

Your logic makes about as much sense as walking into a hospital and using your observations there to form an opinion that 90% of Americans are ill to the point of being bedridden.

tooki

Angus_D · Jul 5, 2005, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

Newsflash: this is a support forum. People come here because they have a problem -- all the people who DON'T have trouble aren't here, they're off enjoying their system.

That's largely irrelevant. All the (admittedly anecdotal) evidence that I have seen suggests that people have had more issues with Tiger than they did with Panther. Saying that everyone has issues is incorrect, but claiming that there aren't any is just as incorrect.

As always, people are jumping up and down and claiming two polar extremities, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

alphasubzero949 · Jul 5, 2005, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by eddiecatflap

IF tiger's so flipping amazing , why is everyone waiting in anticipation for 10.4.2 ?

i'll tell you WHY

it's because 10.4.1 is a half assed rushed out **** up , that's WHY

No, everyone is waiting in anticipation for 10.5.

TheSpaz · Jul 5, 2005, 07:34 PM

Lemme throw my 2 cents in. I am having problems with Tiger and I'm on my second Erase and Install of Tiger. I too am waiting anxiously for 10.4.2 in hopes my problems will vanish.

I remember when Panther came out and I was pretty happy with it except for a few GUI changes that I had to get used to... I'm all used to the look of OS X now.

I upgraded to Tiger mistakenly thinking that it would be BETTER than PANTHER and I'm sure that most people upgraded for that reason as well... how would one know exactly what problems the individule will run into.

Another thing is... people use their computers differently... they run different Apps they EACH have their OWN unique experience with Mac OS X so their problems are also going to depend on exactly how they use their OS... these people claiming to NOT have any problems may only be surfing the web a lot and chatting with some friends here and there... and really don't notice a lot that's changed. On the OTHER hand some OS X users have their LIFE on their computer and use it to 100% of what it's MEANT to do.

Here's what I do with OS X:

Making music with GarageBand (Live Recordings and Studio Recordings)
iPhoto (I have a very nice Canon Digital Rebel) and I catalog all my Photos
Safari (Browsing the web)
iChat (Umm Chatting)
iTunes (Listening to music that I've made and other bands as well)
Mail (Check my email)
iMovie (I also enjoy editing movies such as skate videos of my friends and myself)
iDVD (Burning my home made videos to DVD)
TextEdit (For html and web development)
Quicktime (I also make Quicktime VR Panoramas and display them in Quicktime)
Photoshop (Advanced photo editing for stuff that iPhoto cannot handle)
Illustrator (I use Illustrator a lot... I work with it all day at work in a Label Pre-Press department)
Toast (For burning CDs and DVDs)
Dashboard (Check the Weather ;-))
Spotlight (Find stuff... when it works)

I do a lot on this computer so I probably notice more bugs than the average Joe (I'm not saying that a lot of you guys are average because you're all very intelligent...)

I guess all I'm really trying to say is... everything seemed to work more smoothly in Panther (all versions).

rotuts · Jul 5, 2005, 10:17 PM

Ok Spaz. thanks

but what doen't work for you on the list that you mentioned?

im not argumentatvvie just why down't you like it as well as 10.3.9? few people mention the specifics thats all. and you took the time to send a lenghty reply

hoppe to hear

rotuts

eddiecatflap · Jul 6, 2005, 10:04 AM

i thought the beachball in spotlight / finder searches was my slow mac

but then i hear about dual 2.7's having similar problems !!

???

mitchell_pgh · Jul 6, 2005, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by timmerk

Most people!? Ha ha ha. Have you not looked around the forums? Everyone hates it and are having problems. My whole family has had problems. Everyone that comes into the Apple store has had problems - a lot more then 10.3.

timmerk, it may be due to the fact that you will see very few "Using Tiger and everything is fine" threads. When nothing is wrong, you don't hear much.

Randman · Jul 6, 2005, 11:44 AM

It sucks to have problems. But having problems and posting about it seeking answers is one thing. Posting to blow a little steam is something as well. But posting in numerous threads with comments like "Tiger sucks balls", "Everyone is having trouble with" "Apple sucks" etc is just plain silly. Crying like a little girl won't solve the problem. And more people are not having problems with Tiger.

Stradlater · Jul 6, 2005, 12:00 PM

A greater ratio of people who are having problems will voice their opinions on an issue than the ratio of people who are having none.

Many people love Tiger, they don't need to say it. I love Tiger; I've had no problems. Stop being whiny babies and maybe you'll get some help.

tooki · Jul 6, 2005, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Angus_D

That's largely irrelevant. All the (admittedly anecdotal) evidence that I have seen suggests that people have had more issues with Tiger than they did with Panther. Saying that everyone has issues is incorrect, but claiming that there aren't any is just as incorrect.

As always, people are jumping up and down and claiming two polar extremities, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

It's not "largely irrelevant" -- it's hugely relevant. The bias here is tremendous. I think you should take a basic statistics class.

Nobody has claimed that NOBODY has problems, or that there are no problems. Certainly Tiger has bugs, and some people have had unusual trouble. But that's what happens with EVERY Mac OS release, and I don't think this release has been any different.

tooki

Stradlater · Jul 6, 2005, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

It's not "largely irrelevant" -- it's hugely relevant. The bias here is tremendous. I think you should take a basic statistics class.

Nobody has claimed that NOBODY has problems, or that there are no problems. Certainly Tiger has bugs, and some people have had unusual trouble. But that's what happens with EVERY Mac OS release, and I don't think this release has been any different.

tooki

Exactly, I see no "evidence" that people are having more problems with Tiger than people had with Panther. In fact, if you think back to it (seriously, think), these forums were flooded throughout Panther's releases (almost every incremental release had people with certain compatibility issues cropping up).

mitchell_pgh · Jul 6, 2005, 02:29 PM

I haven't seen any "Tiger hosed my system" threads. I couldn't say that same back in the 10.2 and 10.3 updates.