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timmerk · 01:50 AM

FIX: I had removed "Search.bundle" to remove spotlight's menu in /library/system/coreservices/. 10.4.2 updater put a new one there. To fix, trash new one, and put old one back. Then quit SystemUIServer. All menu extras will come back.
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Anyone else get this after using SW update to 10.4.2? Restarting does not fix it. Some other people are having this problem as well, as found in the 10.4.2 comments on versiontracker.

UPDATE: Just Apple menu items on the right side, like Airport, battery, clock, etc do NOT show. If you move cursor over the area, it rainbows, as if they were trying to load. Third party items work though. In addition, I looked at Activity Monitor, as SystemUIServer is not responding, and when I force quit it, the empty space where the Apple menu extras should go goes away and so does the rainbow over it, meaning that the problem lays somewhere inside there.

Any ideas how to fix?

Update 2: Other people having this problem:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/we...O4.1@.68b44eb8
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/fe...05071217083529
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/fe...50712183403658

awaspaas · Jul 12, 2005, 08:53 PM

Do you have any 3rd party menu extras? SystemUIServer is the program that displays the menu extras so somehow it's not starting.

Obligatory repair permissions comment?

timmerk · Jul 12, 2005, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by awaspaas

Do you have any 3rd party menu extras? SystemUIServer is the program that displays the menu extras so somehow it's not starting.

Obligatory repair permissions comment?

Yes, but none of them start up at login. This happens with and without them. I tried repairing permissions, restarting, restarting SystemUIServer, etc. It happened to 3 other people I know.

Mrjinglesusa · Jul 12, 2005, 09:26 PM

Must be a conflict with something you all have in common in your systems. No problems here on a 14" iBook and 20" iMac.

timmerk · Jul 12, 2005, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa

Must be a conflict with something you all have in common in your systems. No problems here on a 14" iBook and 20" iMac.

I booted up with no programs starting up, and it still does it. I have no hacks or any other werido things. It does this in root account and every other account. :-( I tried using the installer to "upgrade" again, but still no luck.

Thinine · Jul 12, 2005, 11:19 PM

Try a new user account. If it works, there's something wrong with your user's preferences in regards to the menu. I'm not sure what file you would delete to fix, but it's a start.

Kristoff · Jul 13, 2005, 12:28 AM

Whenever I use Microsoft Office Apps, the menu extras enter this odd state as well.

If you move the mouse over them, some of them show duplicates until you click on them, then the icon changes to something else or disappears altogether. Very odd.

timmerk · Jul 13, 2005, 01:43 AM

Here are some other threads about this problem:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/we...O4.1@.68b44eb8
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/fe...05071217083529
http://www.versiontracker.com/php/fe...50712183403658

timmerk · Jul 13, 2005, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Thinine

Try a new user account. If it works, there's something wrong with your user's preferences in regards to the menu. I'm not sure what file you would delete to fix, but it's a start.

I did this, no luck. I even moved all prefs from /system in case it was a corrupt pref file, but still same.

timmerk · Jul 13, 2005, 01:51 AM

found out the problem, see fix in original post.

billearl · Jul 13, 2005, 08:05 PM

I had the exact same problem and used your fix successfully. Thanks.

It appears the 10.4.2 updater, not finding a Search.bundle file where it expects, installs a newer but incomplete version of Search.bundle which causes the missing menu items problem.

On a bootable backup disk with 10.4.1, I moved the Search.bundle file back where it belongs and then updated to 10.4.2. This resulted in a newer version (1.1, dated July 8) of Search.bundle which is complete and works properly.

I then moved this file to remove the Spotlight menu again. I just like to have a working copy of the new version of Search.bundle, even if I'm not currently using it.

timmerk · Jul 14, 2005, 01:03 AM

No problem. Yeah, I didn't realize you could just delete it and didn't have to put old one back. But now I'm Spotlight free again! :-)

omey · Jul 27, 2005, 08:43 PM

Could you please send me that (Search.bundle). I deleted mine and now I want it back. Thanx!

you can email it to

omegaATmacmailDOTcom

Originally Posted by billearl

I had the exact same problem and used your fix successfully. Thanks.

It appears the 10.4.2 updater, not finding a Search.bundle file where it expects, installs a newer but incomplete version of Search.bundle which causes the missing menu items problem.

On a bootable backup disk with 10.4.1, I moved the Search.bundle file back where it belongs and then updated to 10.4.2. This resulted in a newer version (1.1, dated July 8) of Search.bundle which is complete and works properly.

I then moved this file to remove the Spotlight menu again. I just like to have a working copy of the new version of Search.bundle, even if I'm not currently using it.

timmerk · Jul 31, 2005, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by omey

Could you please send me that (Search.bundle). I deleted mine and now I want it back. Thanx!

you can email it to

omegaATmacmailDOTcom

see above post - you don't need to put the old one back after all.. unless you want spotlight back that is. still need it? if so, i can send

Groovy · Jul 31, 2005, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Kristoff

Whenever I use Microsoft Office Apps, the menu extras enter this odd state as well.

If you move the mouse over them, some of them show duplicates until you click on them, then the icon changes to something else or disappears altogether. Very odd.

Yeah many apps mess with

com.apple.systemuiserver.plist

and if they hose it you will get no menu bar extras and/or funkiness like you have.

The fix is to delete the file and let OSX rebuild a new one then add back your
menu stuff. Example go to date time pref pane and turn on the show date/time
in menu bar check box, since the default is not to show it etc...

here is MINE after I fixed it. before the fix it was HUGE and was a mess with all sorts
of crap and stuff added by apps i long ago deleted. Even Shapeshifter had stuff in
there and i only tried it once for a day and decided not to use it.

Nice and clean com.apple.systemuiserver.plist

Code:
{
    AnimationGenieGUIDLSBindings = -853188156; 
    UICalendarTempStyle = -1955721970; 
    "__NSEnableTSMDocumentWindowLevel" = 1; 
    menuExtras = (
            "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Clock.menu", 
            "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras/Volume.menu", 
            "/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuCracker.menu"
            "/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuMeterNet.menu", 
            "/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuMeterMem.menu", 
            "/Library/PreferencePanes/MenuMeters.prefPane/Contents/Resources/MenuMeterCPU.menu", 
    ); 
}

Groovy · Jul 31, 2005, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Thinine

Try a new user account. If it works, there's something wrong with your user's preferences in regards to the menu. I'm not sure what file you would delete to fix, but it's a start.

most of time deleting this will fix it

com.apple.systemuiserver.plist

Groovy · Jul 31, 2005, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by timmerk

FIX: I had removed "Search.bundle" to remove spotlight's menu in /library/system/coreservices/. 10.4.2 updater put a new one there. To fix, trash new one, and put old one back. Then quit SystemUIServer. All menu extras will come back.
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but isn't that just getting rid of the UI? If so that is only half way there. You need to turn
off the mds indexing also etc.... why have it slowing things down if you never plan to
use it. right?