K. for some reason I'm getting that stupid "firewall unavailable" glitch, and what's different about my case is that I have NOT installed any third party firewall software. I checked the library/startup items folder, and the only thing in there was Adobe Version Cue, which has been in there forever. Have any ideas? I'm running tiger, and the only recent apps I've installed have been pocketmac, and Tech Tool Pro 4.