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phobos · Aug 27, 2005, 01:04 AM

After updating to tiger my system has developed a few irritating problems.
Navigating through big files (300MB and bigger) in the finder is a pure nightmare. It hangs for a few seconds after going to the next file. 500MB plus files just make the finder hang for a minute or two and sometimes make it compeletely crash!! Previewing Photoshop files in the finder is impossible whereas before you could quickly scan the file you wanted even with huge files. Reason the music program is unuasable because of that. As most of you will know reason installs some 600MB samples on your hard drive necessary for it to work. When the program needs to access this file and preview it the systems hangs. Now the only way around it is to use the 2cds provided with the program wich is quite uncomfortable.
And the other very strange problem is in renaming files. If you're in column mode and rename a file or a folder it takes a second to process the change and relocate the file to the appropriate place.
So any ideas what has changed with Tiger? Or is this a badly installed version on my machine?

I have OSX 10.4.1 on a 667DVI powerbook with 512MB of ram.

Randman · Aug 27, 2005, 05:11 AM

512 of ram.

tooki · Aug 27, 2005, 08:57 AM

Agreed, upgrade to a full GB of RAM and you'll see a lot less slowdowns.

tooki

phobos · Aug 27, 2005, 09:49 AM

You guys are not serious right?
Do you believe that I need 1GB of ram to make finder previewing in column view faster? That's impossible.
You know that it doesn't actually read the whole file to display the preview image. It's a small icon that's been saved along with the image in the saving process. So something else is going on there.

What about the file renaming issue? Do I need 1GB of ram as well??? Please....

Wevah · Aug 27, 2005, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by phobos

It's a small icon that's been saved along with the image in the saving process.

Not necessarily. That's only the case for certain formats with, for example, a saved resource fork or EXIF data. For something like an EXIF-less JPEG, yes, it reads the entire file. I'm not even sure that the Finder knows how to read the embedded thumbnails of all that many file formats, either.

phobos · Aug 27, 2005, 11:50 AM

Even if what you say is true this wasn't an issue on the previous versions of OSX.
I can't understand what has changed in this version.

Now that I come to think of it the only thing that has changed on my part is the enabling of journaling. I'll disable it to see if the speed will change.

Uncle Skeleton · Aug 27, 2005, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by phobos

What about the file renaming issue?

I noticed that too and I think it's a feature. Before when you renamed a folder it instantly disappeared from view and you couldn't see the effect of your changes. I assume they decided this was confusing to new users and added a delay.

Weyland-Yutani · Aug 27, 2005, 12:29 PM

Just use Icon view and List view. A lot of headaches regarding Column view are instantly out the window.

I do this and like it a lot. Haven't used column view since 10.1

cheers

W-Y

mAxximo · Aug 27, 2005, 08:21 PM

Column View is still there?

Big Mac · Aug 27, 2005, 08:41 PM

I thought so many loved column view. Ironically, it likely the main mode of Finder use I employ. In any event, there must certainly be something wrong with the OP's system, since I have neither heard of nor experienced such a problem. A RAM deficiency does not cause Finder hangs.

Cold Warrior · Aug 27, 2005, 09:48 PM

I love column view

Thinine · Aug 27, 2005, 10:08 PM

It's slow because your computer is slow. You think rendering a multi-hundred-MB photoshop file will be fast on your machine? I've navigated through large files on my iBook 500 (multi-GB disk images, databases, etc.) without a problem, but previewing is another matter. I can't see how you expect your machine to handle stuff like that.

And update to 10.4.2.

ghporter · Aug 27, 2005, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by phobos

Even if what you say is true this wasn't an issue on the previous versions of OSX.
I can't understand what has changed in this version.

Now that I come to think of it the only thing that has changed on my part is the enabling of journaling. I'll disable it to see if the speed will change.

Tiger wants more RAM than Panther did because it's doing a lot in the background that Panther didn't do. More RAM WILL make the whole OS faster, though you may not see all of the speed increase through the UI.

Spedly · Sep 17, 2005, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by phobos

So any ideas what has changed with Tiger? Or is this a badly installed version on my machine?

I have OSX 10.4.1 on a 667DVI powerbook with 512MB of ram.

I don't know what happened either, but I am seeing the same problem except with small files during a large copy, ie 2GB of 3-4 MB files. System hangs often. I have 1 GB RAM and never saw such junk with 10.3. I believe something bad has changed with Finder in 10.4.

playby · Sep 18, 2005, 10:06 AM

I have a powerbook G4 1.5ghz with 1 gig of RAM and suffer the same previewing problem (which includes large photoshop files crashing the entire system). Sorry that I don't have any advice... All I can say is that I doubt it's because of a slow system. My Photoshop is also a lot slower than it should be. I'm considering installing Tiger fresh and seeing what happens.