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Forbodium · 03:49 PM

For a while I was running TIger the way it came on my new iBook (10.4.2) and web browsing with both iCab and Mozilla was great. However, after DLing and installing Security Updates 2005-007 and 008, it now beachballs a lot while loading pages instead of allowing me to scroll to the parts of the page that have loaded while I wait for other parts of the page to load. It doesn’t appear to happen with Safari, but that doesn’t help much as I can’t find a way to prevent animations from playing/loading in that app.

Fusion · Oct 17, 2005, 04:23 PM

If you don't want animations to play in Safari, us PithHelmet. It lets you turn GIF animations to play once, twice, 20 seconds or never.

If you are talking about Flash animations, you can just turn off the flash plugin.

About your issue with the other browsers: I occasionly use Firefox and have not noticed a further slowdown. (I have always thought Firefox was a pig).

Sophus · Oct 17, 2005, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Forbodium

For a while I was running TIger the way it came on my new iBook (10.4.2) and web browsing with both iCab and Mozilla was great. However, after DLing and installing Security Updates 2005-007 and 008, it now beachballs a lot while loading pages instead of allowing me to scroll to the parts of the page that have loaded while I wait for other parts of the page to load. It doesn’t appear to happen with Safari, but that doesn’t help much as I can’t find a way to prevent animations from playing/loading in that app.

Here are some suggestions for solving two common problems some people seem to experience after the security update. Check them out and please report on your results with these fixes.

Another fix for system-wide freezes when Web browsing
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php...050926074002217

Disappearing hard drive space -- swelling console logs
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php...050926081821717

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Azzgunther · Oct 17, 2005, 05:11 PM

Both of those links are broken currently

Azzgunther · Oct 17, 2005, 05:15 PM

Which sucks because Safari is a real pain in the ass lately. It's doing the old-school 'hang before it loads the website, wait for user to press refresh before it actually loads' crap. In addition to crashing daily. I'm so sick of these glitches from Apple...it's 10.4.2 and my patience is inversely proportional to the current OS number. It sucks because 10.4.0 and 10.4.1 worked fine.

Grrr · Oct 17, 2005, 05:54 PM

10.4 doesnt suk for browsing. Safari suks for browsing. It mostly slows down due to its multitudes of memory leaks. Check your Activity monitor and you will see what I mean.

wataru · Oct 17, 2005, 06:09 PM

You could try NightShift, which lets you use the very latest pre-release WebKit. Or you could keep trying other browsers. There are lots out there.

wataru · Oct 17, 2005, 06:18 PM

double post

CatOne · Oct 17, 2005, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Azzgunther

Which sucks because Safari is a real pain in the ass lately. It's doing the old-school 'hang before it loads the website, wait for user to press refresh before it actually loads' crap. In addition to crashing daily. I'm so sick of these glitches from Apple...it's 10.4.2 and my patience is inversely proportional to the current OS number. It sucks because 10.4.0 and 10.4.1 worked fine.

Are you SURE you're not running any haxies or anything else on the machine? I've used Safari as my only browser on the Mac since it was first released... what was that 3 1/2 years ago? I have never had problems of the type you mentioned, not with 10.4.0, 10.4.1, or 10.4.2. Be CERTAIN it's not something else -- inevitably it is.

I'll also note that I typically have between 3 and 10 tabs open in Safari -- not 50 like some people have noted. I think 50 open tabs is pretty ridiculous... especially because Safari doesn't save tabs when you quit, so you would lose so much info. If of course you're using Saft to keep open bookmarks, and by that you are then using 60 open tabs and having issues... well that might be your problem. Safari caches lots of stuff, and it does leak in 10.4.2 (Hyatt acknowledged in his blog that they've been fixing TONS of leaks -- let's hope the fixes make it into 10.4.3!).

You COULD also try tinkering with the Webkit nighties to see if they're better for you from a stability perspective. I've been using them for a couple weeks -- you can download them here:

http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/

Obligatory warning - nightly builds certainly CAN be unstable. They don't go through the same QA that release builds do. But these releases pass ACID2.

Azzgunther · 10:06 PM

Thanks for pointing me there. I do use Shapeshifter and Cleardock, so it's definitely possible that those are to blame. I did not have any problems with Tiger before 10.4.2 though, which is why it's so annoying to be transported back to 2004.

I'll post here in a few days regarding page-loading reliability and the stability of the Webkits.

EDIT:

OH

MY

GOD

Something is seriously wrong with the default version of Safari on my system, because this WebKit is honestly 300% faster and it doesn't have those halting freezes or loading problems at all. I guess I can't blame TIme Warner anymore for our "crappy" cable connection

Thanks so much for that link!

Randman · Oct 17, 2005, 10:20 PM

Do the usual: empty cache, clean out the rss folders, deactivate flavicons, edit down and turn off Autofill > Others.

fisherKing · Oct 17, 2005, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

Do the usual: empty cache, clean out the rss folders, deactivate flavicons, edit down and turn off Autofill > Others.

like randman said...

i'm on 10.4.2, with shapeshifter, fruitmenu, etc etc...and no problems with safari...