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2009059 · Feb 8, 2006, 05:44 PM

Hi,

I recently downloaded some pictures but they came in a 10.5 GB .bin file. I try to expand it with stuffit and that doesn't work, tried to rename .dmg, but there was no checksum. Obviously burning a 10 GB CD is impossible, so how can I get the contents of the .bin?

Big Mac · Feb 9, 2006, 12:37 AM

Are they really picture files? Sounds a lot more like a DVD rip.

But even then 10GBs is quite large. You cannot mount a .bin; you have to convert it.

Apfhex · Feb 9, 2006, 01:28 AM

Often "these" kinds of downloads are accompanied with a .cue file, which you use with a disc burning program. IIRC the .bin files are burnable on their own. And if they're burnable, then they're mountable. Toast would be able to do it... I'm not sure about other burning software. Since this is contrary to what Big Mac said, I might be wrong. You could also try renaming the file .iso if it is indeed a disc image.

2009059 · Feb 9, 2006, 05:44 AM

Thanks, I'll try toast tonight. PS: Big Mac, they are pictures from NASA.

RevEvs · Feb 9, 2006, 06:34 AM

give Firestarter (Free) or Toast (un-free) a go.

also see this

2009059 · Feb 9, 2006, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by RevEvs

give Firestarter (Free) or Toast (un-free) a go.

also see this

Toast says it is an invalid .bin file. The second link their doesn't work when I try to DL it.

osxrules · Feb 9, 2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by 2009059

Toast says it is an invalid .bin file. The second link their doesn't work when I try to DL it.

Try opening the file in Hexedit and look at the code at the beginning. It may have the wrong extension.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macos/10658

Try taking a screenshot (shift-command-4 and select the area) of the ascii code on the far right of the window - don't copy/paste because the characters aren't recognised by this forum. For example, here is the first page of a quicktime movie:

You can see that it's a sorenson 3 file and is a quicktime .mov because of the Apple video media hander tag.

It may help to see the corresponding hex codes (middle column) so post those too.

2009059 · Feb 9, 2006, 03:34 PM

When I try to open it, it says: 'File does not have requested fork!'

When I say to create the fork, it just opens a blank window. The gzip it came in also gives this error.

Big Mac · Feb 9, 2006, 05:26 PM

I apologize for suspecting it was a DVD rip, 2009059. Does NASA have any instructions at all for dealing with the file?

2009059 · Feb 9, 2006, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

I apologize for suspecting it was a DVD rip, 2009059. Does NASA have any instructions at all for dealing with the file?

Well, I found it on mininova.org and couldn't find anything about it on NASA's site.

osxrules · Feb 10, 2006, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by 2009059

When I try to open it, it says: 'File does not have requested fork!'

When I say to create the fork, it just opens a blank window. The gzip it came in also gives this error.

What about these ones:

http://www.ex-cinder.com/hexeditor.html
http://www.quadrivio.com/products.html#QGELite

I've had that error before too but I'm not sure why it appears. I know that if you open a file and select edit other fork, it will switch between resource forks and data forks and you get that error if it doesn't have a resource fork but it should have at least one of those if it's using 10+GB.

RevEvs · Feb 10, 2006, 08:35 AM

StuffItExpander can sometimes oen .bin files

2009059 · Feb 11, 2006, 06:47 AM

Hex editor gives me the error: Hexdump error if I scroll down too much. But does show contents (pic below)
QGElite gives the error: not enough memory. (I have tried it set so it does and doesn't use the ram)
Stuffit says it is not compressed/encoded.

Do you think the file is corrupted maybe?

osxrules · Feb 12, 2006, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by 2009059

Do you think the file is corrupted maybe?

If the file contains quite a few pages of those repeating 06 13 2f codes then it contains no information. It's just like an empty file. Some file types have null data at the beginning as padding but they usually have a code that identifies the file type.

2009059 · Feb 12, 2006, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by osxrules

If the file contains quite a few pages of those repeating 06 13 2f codes then it contains no information. It's just like an empty file. Some file types have null data at the beginning as padding but they usually have a code that identifies the file type.

That's weird..10 gigs of nothing

. Oh well. Thanks for helping man!

osxrules · Feb 12, 2006, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by 2009059

That's weird..10 gigs of nothing

. Oh well. Thanks for helping man!

It's weird I know. I've downloaded similar files from Kazaa, although nowhere near 10GB. They sometimes have a piece of Windows code attached, which I usually presume is a virus of some sort. The reason they attach them to huge empty files is so that people think they are legitimate and just double click them. I don't think that's what is happening here since it comes from NASA. If the screenshot is of the .bin file, it looks like the gzip file is corrupt or unrecognized and so the program extracting it is producing null data. If it was the .bin, can you take a screenshot of the .gzip file? If it was the gzip file, then I'd say it's empty.

Did you get the file from this site - the 2.9GB bin.gz file, which I assume extracts to a 10GB .bin file?:

http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_detail.php?id=7100

Other people have had trouble extracting that too. If it is that one, I'll download it tonight and see what I get.

2009059 · 05:12 PM

Those are the ones...but I got them off the pictures section of mininova.

osxrules · Feb 13, 2006, 05:10 PM

Nope, it's not empty, the gzip file is ok. The extracted 10.5GB file seems to be some sort of image format like the RAW image format. It's a single image of resolution 86,400 x 43,200. Somebody said they got it open in Photoshop - try adding .raw on the end of the file and use the settings he said:

I got it to open in Photoshop. I opened it as photoshop raw with 86400x43200 and count of 1, 16bit pc. You MUST make sure that you've got your scratch set to a drive with about 9gb of space as it'll use it all. When it does actually open (give it time), it's only part of the image, it's at 1% and it's in greyscale. I'm trying to figure out how to open it in color.

I think there are viewers that let you view these images without killing your machine but I couldn't find any for OS X. GraphicConverter said it doesn't support images greater than 2GB.