[Buckaroo]

Hi,

Does anyone reconize the following font? The darn thing switched last week when I upgraded OSX. I've cleared the Safari cache and reset it and no fix.

If I knew the font, that might help.

[Buckaroo]

Well, I always say, if you keep searching and working on a problem, you'll eventually find the solution.

I pasted in some of the text into MS Word. MS Word identified the font as: Desdemona .

I immeadiatly did a search and deleted all copies of Desdemona from my computer and restarted Safari and the problem is gone.

Another TOTAL F.U. from Microsoft.

I updated MS Office last week.

Those assholes are totally incompitent.

[tooki]

Umm.

MS Office had nothing to do with it. It sounds like a corrupted font cache somewhere. For one thing, it's not as if this is a widespread problem. (In fact, the primary cause of this problem is people monkeying with the /System/Library/Fonts folder, which one is never supposed to touch.) MS installing a font into the user's font directory is a perfectly normal thing to do -- and it has little to do with the application itself, since fonts live outside the realm of the application code.

tooki

[Buckaroo]

I don't mess with any /System/Library/Fonts folders. In fact I don't recall ever modifying anything in the System/Library.

I didn't have this problem until I updated OS X and Office 2004.

[tooki]

I never suggested you messed with /System/Library/Fonts. I was just saying that the symptoms were most reminiscent of. You'd know if you'd messed with that folder -- you have to jump through hoops to get permission to change it.

As I said, most likely a corrupted font cache. The update install may have triggered the corruption, but the font cache is a system issue. I am fairly certain that nothing was wrong with the Office update itself. It could even have been from the OS X update.

tooki

[tom@bluesky.org]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

I don't mess with any /System/Library/Fonts folders. In fact I don't recall ever modifying anything in the System/Library.

I didn't have this problem until I updated OS X and Office 2004.

I don't see how any legit Desdemona font could cause this problem -- it would probably have to be a junk free version which had been hacked from something whose real internal name was something common like Helvetica or Times, and installed in Home/Library/Fonts most likely. I doubt that installing anything from MS or Apple could be responsible.

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by tom@bluesky.org

I don't see how any legit Desdemona font could cause this problem -- it would probably have to be a junk free version which had been hacked from something whose real internal name was something common like Helvetica or Times, and installed in Home/Library/Fonts most likely. I doubt that installing anything from MS or Apple could be responsible.

Forgive me for coming straight to the point, but: Well, considering I have NEVER EVER EVER installed ANY fonts that did NOT come with MS Office or Apple OS, I would say you are wrong. And besides, what part of the problem appeared the day I upgraded MS Office did you not understand.

Sorry, I'm not in a good mood right now.

And another thing. The font that I had trouble with WAS Desdemona. It replaced other fonts in Safari and I could not read the text. In the picture above I enlarged the font so I could read it, in reality the font was small like a 12 or 14, maybe smaller.

Anyhow, I fixed the problem, I repeat I fixed the problem by deleting Desdmona.

[tom@bluesky.org]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

I have NEVER EVER EVER installed ANY fonts that did NOT come with MS Office or Apple OS, I would say you are wrong.

Thanks for your response! If that's really the case, then this is certainly an interesting example of a Safari problem. As far as I know, there's no one else who has ever had to modify their MS Office install to remove the MS version of Desdemona in order to have Safari work properly, at least in the several years I've followed Safari in forums devoted to its quirks.

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by tom@bluesky.org

Thanks for your response! If that's really the case, then this is certainly an interesting example of a Safari problem. As far as I know, there's no one else who has ever had to modify their MS Office install to remove the MS version of Desdemona in order to have Safari work properly, at least in the several years I've followed Safari in forums devoted to its quirks.

His mind is made up, and I don't think there's anything you or anyone else can do to change his (misguided) opinion.