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Correct. But MOST PDFs aren't editable.

GUI artwork doesn't need to be editable.

While I can't speak for the entire PDF-using universe, I'm able to edit most PDFs I encounter.

all they have done is shove it under and caused people to ignore it.

I would like to see apple script finally have a useful GUI unlike that stupid automator which doesn't do any of the thins that most users would want to do!

Again, this coincides with your post in the 10.6 wishlist thread...

Applescript is a scripting language. You can't put a very useful GUI around something that fundamentally centers around text workflows - Applescript is not Photoshop. At the end of the day, you still need to understand and work with that text.

What you can do is Automate and provide just-add-water solutions for common Applescript uses, which is exactly what Automator is. Like you said, it is limited in its design. Once you leave this little bubble, you are on your own. No GUI will solve this basic dillema.

No, but that wasn't what I was talking about.

Then the person didn't PDF it correctly. Like I encounter some I can edit in IE etc.

you should really turn all text into artwork before PDFing.

I send PDFs to customers for Proofs this way. Never had a bad one come back.

The point of a PDF is that you can't edit it. If I send a layout to someone, and I don't want them changing things (People will, believe me) I PDF it.

God, no! You can lock a PDF without changing all the text into graphics.

Yes I know you can. But I like to. These are simply for email previews.

Most people that make PDFs in for example Office, have no clue what they are doing. And usually the PDF comes out looking like crap. And having fonts default all over the place.

I still feel that PDfs are not being used to their full potential.

Why is it that every time I use one I know that it is almost always an insturction manual, or some sort of buisness document, or text (or a really bad example of what a PDF is)

Those are PERFECT examples of what PDF is for. You can't easily change these manuals or documents, can you? So you have effectively an electronic printed page, rather than an easily edited document-and just think of the mischief that you could do if bids, proposals, contracts and such were sent out as Word documents! That's one of the great beauties of PDF-it allows you to share and protect content at the same time.

I really hate the fact that Apple's Logic Studio uses a .pdf manual, rather than tying into the Help Viewer architecture.

OTOH, it also comes with MASSIVE printed documentation, so that kind of makes up for it.

Hierarchical menus in the Dock.

What kind of things do most users want to do?

AppleScript in Leopard is a major advance forward. Check out AppleScript: The Language of Automation for details and examples.

It's not often you get an Apple Product manager asking you what you want the product to do.
Might be a good idea to take advantage beez1717.

This isn't really an advanced feature, nor would including it really be that spectacular, but I just found out today that I can't drag an image from Safari in to the Dashboard Tile Game. I had to drag it to the desktop first. Seems like something I should be able to do.

They changed that some time ago - when you drag an image out of Safari, it defaults to dragging the image LOCATION (url) rather than the image itself.

Try dragging the image to an e-mail: same thing.

Drives me friggin' up the wall.

Now that works for me. That's odd.

From Safari directly into an e-mail?

That pastes the link for me.

When you drag something in Safari, Safari itself does not decide on a particular type of what you drag. It offers a multitude of flavours of the draged data. For an image that's a pict, a tiff,