[JustinHorne]

Anyone noticed verifying/repairing permissions in 10.5 take a looooong time?
I turned it on last night, did other stuff for no reason, came back in about 15 minutes, it still said it had started, nothing more.. Usually it takes me 2 minutes max. I cancelled it, and wen tback to work. Few minutes later, I heard the fans going crazy. Opened up iStat, and there's a process called InstallDB taking up as much of the processing power as it can, and the cores were at about 185 degrees...

What's up with this?

[Kevin]

I use Diskwarrior for that. And Applejack. Both take less time. The latter free, but doesn't work with 10.5 yet.

[Hal Itosis]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

I use Diskwarrior for that. And Applejack. Both take less time. The latter free, but doesn't work with 10.5 yet.

 
Mine took 5 minutes the first day,
and the last time I tried it was...

2007-11-02 01:39:51 -0400: Verify permissions for “MacX”
2007-11-02 01:46:50 -0400: Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/
RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent"
has been modified and will not be repaired.
2007-11-02 01:58:11 -0400:
2007-11-02 01:58:11 -0400: Permissions verification complete

^ 17 minutes and 20 seconds ^

So Kevin, how much time does a permission run take on your Mac?
It should be a simple matter of checking the log file. N'est-ce pas?

[JustinHorne]

I timed it and let it run until completion, 38 minutes. :o

[Art Vandelay]

Mine runs in under 90 seconds.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

Mine runs in under 90 seconds.

Same here. But in the process I also get strange output like:

code:

Warning: SUID file "System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent" has been modified and will not be repaired.
ACL found but not expected on "Applications".
ACL found but not expected on "Library".

The first line appeared after the recent ARD update. The other two have been there ever since I installed Leopard.

[Hal Itosis]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

Mine runs in under 90 seconds.

Strange... yet most interesting.

The vast majority of folks (not just here) are reporting 5 minutes minimum.
So I wonder if yours is working better... or perhaps not working enough.

What hath Apple wrought?

[Simon]

Originally Posted by Simon 

But in the process I also get strange output like:

code:

ACL found but not expected on "Applications".
ACL found but not expected on "Library".

I think I now managed to solve the problem. If I do a

code:

ls -le /

I can see /Applications and /Library have an additional ACL entry. I then did a

code:

sudo chmod -a# 0 /Applications
sudo chmod -a# 0 /Library

and repaired permissions once more. The error messages are now gone!

What I still don't understand is why /Applications and /Library had extra ACL entries in the first place?

[Appleman]

I would say i has to do with Time Machine.
Switch it off, and you'll see it doesn't take that much time anymore.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis 

So Kevin, how much time does a permission run take on your Mac?
It should be a simple matter of checking the log file. N'est-ce pas?

dang, um I wasn't trying to run a content. Applejack did it in a nicer way that seemed to work. I know how to fix permissions in the terminal. I just liked doing it the Applejack way better.

[edoras]

I tried to run Applejack... It said I cannot run under "root"... Why is that so..? If yes, how can I solve the problem..?

[PaperNotes]

Repair Disk Permissions is substituted by Debug Code™ at the moment.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by edoras 

I tried to run Applejack... It said I cannot run under "root"... Why is that so..? If yes, how can I solve the problem..?

Applejack wont work with 10.5 because Apple disabled root. A move I can understand somewhat...
But they need to give that option to enable it. IMHO.

Originally Posted by PaperNotes 

Repair Disk Permissions is substituted by Debug Code™ at the moment.

I've had programs not work properly when permissions where messed up.

[PaperNotes]

Originally Posted by Kevin 

I've had programs not work properly when permissions where messed up.

After I quit waiting for Disk Utility to fix perms I launched Sys Prefs and my Network panel wouldn't load. I had to reboot. I was pretty pleased with Leopard when I finally got it the other day but now it is getting flaky on me. I sense a couple of very large software updates will be in order.

[Kevin]

OH I do as well. I just wish they'd get here.