[Cospefogo]

Gentlemen,

First of all - Mac OS X 10.4.11.
Second - I use a US keyboard and I write things like "ç, á, à, ê, ô, yadda, yadda, yadda..."

So, I just installed INTERNATIONAL ENGLISH in my input methods and everything works flawlessly!
Well, almost... Sometimes for no reason, the system changes itself back to the default input method,
the US ENGLISH (and YES, I have turned off any kind of shortcuts for that).

So my question is - is there a way to simply remove the US INPUT from the default status?
It is "grayed out" in the international panel and I can't uncheck it by all means.

Some kind of administrator trick?
SUDO here... SUDO there...
(c:

Thanks or your attention, people!
Best reagards!
G.

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by Cospefogo 

Gentlemen,

First of all - Mac OS X 10.4.11.
Second - I use a US keyboard and I write things like "ç, á, à, ê, ô, yadda, yadda, yadda..."

So, I just installed INTERNATIONAL ENGLISH in my input methods and everything works flawlessly!
Well, almost... Sometimes for no reason, the system changes itself back to the default input method,
the US ENGLISH (and YES, I have turned off any kind of shortcuts for that).

So my question is - is there a way to simply remove the US INPUT from the default status?
It is "grayed out" in the international panel and I can't uncheck it by all means.

Some kind of administrator trick?
SUDO here... SUDO there...
(c:

Thanks or your attention, people!
Best reagards!
G.

On my machines when you choose "U.S. Extended," it activates the checkbox next to "U.S." and then you can unselect it.

Although you can type all the special characters from the regular U.S. keyboard layout, too.

[Cospefogo]

Thanks Person Man!
But my issue is still here.

I can UNCHECK the US if I check for example the US EXTENDED or even JAPANESE.
But still, I can't uncheck all of them and keep only mine ENGLISH INTERNATIONAL checked.

I see that the system can't stay with no input methods checked, right?
So, it looks like that the system is no recognizing my layout as one of the "bundled" ones.
I can switch between a many different inputs (having at least one checked), but it does not permit
to have only mine checked.

My US International input is a .RSRC file, and to install it I just dropped it inside /library/Keyboard Layouts.
Am I doing something wrong?

I just discovered this directory:
/System/Library/Components
Inside there I see a lot of inputs but they are all .BUNDLE files.
What is the secret here?
Apple docs says --- System-provided components available to all users on the computer

I'm a noob yet on Macs!
Trying to find out new things at every new minute!

Regards!
G.

[TETENAL]

Where did you get this keyboard layout, and why aren't you using one of the bundled ones? You don't need a third-party keyboard layout to type accented characters. All the characters in your example above can be typed with the regular English or US keyboard layouts. Tons more with the US Extended layout.

[Cospefogo]

Hey Tetenal,
Thanks for your reply!

I know I can write special characters using the US Extended, but in MACs the way
of inputing them are miles away different of the English International used on
Windows (which a lot of people use)... remember, I just left behind me a entire
life of Windows Using for the rest f my life! But I am still used to a lot
of bold habits got from MS.

I type the ' then C to get Ç.
I type ^ then E to get Ê...
I type ~ then a to get Ã, and so on.

They are different in the US Extended, I mean, in a different way of inputing, right?

I got mine from here:
Rainer Brockerhoff :: USInternational

As said by the author:
" Many international users have keyboards with the U.S. layout, and are accustomed to typing accented characters with the key sequences of the Windows "U.S. - International" keyboard layout. They often don't wish to get used to the Mac's option-key sequences for accented characters, and many mistakenly complain that "the Mac doesn't allow accented characters at all".

Now here's a Mac version of the "U.S. - International" keyboard. It duplicates as closely as possible the Windows key sequences, while keeping most of the option-key sequences intact. "

Cheers,
G.

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by Cospefogo 

Hey Tetenal,
Thanks for your reply!

I know I can write special characters using the US Extended, but in MACs the way
of inputing them are miles away different of the English International used on
Windows (which a lot of people use)... remember, I just left behind me a entire
life of Windows Using for the rest f my life! But I am still used to a lot
of bold habits got from MS.

I type the ' then C to get Ç.
I type ^ then E to get Ê...
I type ~ then a to get Ã, and so on.

They are different in the US Extended, I mean, in a different way of inputing, right?

I got mine from here:
Rainer Brockerhoff :: USInternational

As said by the author:
" Many international users have keyboards with the U.S. layout, and are accustomed to typing accented characters with the key sequences of the Windows "U.S. - International" keyboard layout. They often don't wish to get used to the Mac's option-key sequences for accented characters, and many mistakenly complain that "the Mac doesn't allow accented characters at all".

Now here's a Mac version of the "U.S. - International" keyboard. It duplicates as closely as possible the Windows key sequences, while keeping most of the option-key sequences intact. "

Cheers,
G.

That's probably your problem right there. Third party keyboard layouts are nearly impossible to get to work right on Mac OS X, since they only work for "normal" applications, etc. Apple's contain all the other resources that allow the layouts to work in Terminal apps, etc. This might be why OS X keeps switching the layout on you.

You have two options: either get used to random switching, or learn the Mac option-key sequences. They're not hard to learn.

[Cospefogo]

Yes, I believe.
I just was wondering...

I just created a nice shortcut for a quick change when I need!
Thanks guys.

G.