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I WAS the One · Dec 17, 2007, 08:07 AM

I'm thinking about going back to Tiger... I love Leopard don't get me wrong but since I bought my new iMac Aluminum 24" Core 2 Extreme I'm not getting a nice experience with Leopard. I mean, I open an email with pictures attached and click on Quickview then click on the iPhoto icon to transfer the pics and an error pop up windows appears, the empty trash pop up window freeze and do nothing but staying there emptying nothing! the mighty mouse freeze sometimes and the beach ball from hell spins on tasks that I know doesn't take too much RAM to work, my HD is 500gig and I don't have nothing else in there except for OS and Apps, When I was using it with Tiger nothing like this happened before. so, can somebody explain to me whats going wrong? this all of this is a normal behavior of the new OS or my iMac needs to be exchange by Apple or I can Fix this with a simple OS re-installing ? anyone?

cybergoober · Dec 17, 2007, 01:01 PM

I'm going to guess that you did an Upgrade install from Tiger to Leopard. I would suggest an Archive & Install. I forget where exactly you select that, but I believe it is immediately after you select the destination drive, or perhaps on that same screen. You will see an Options button. Clicking Options will let you choose Upgrade, Archive & Install or Erase & Install. Select Archive & Install

medicman55 · Dec 17, 2007, 01:05 PM

I would advise as what Cybergoober said, or if you don't have that much important stuff on there, just a clean wipe of the system.

I did a clean wipe of my system, and I've never had any problems.

peeb · Dec 17, 2007, 01:07 PM

This is not normal - you should try reinstalling, if that does not fix it, talk to Apple about it.

I WAS the One · Dec 18, 2007, 10:00 AM

Thanx. But let me tell you something. When I bought it at Apple Store in Mall at Millenia in Orlando it came with Tiger and with a special leopard DVD inside the box. I upgrade right away to Leopard and the rest is history. I also got the Leopard retail original OS DVD because I didn't knew I will be buying a new iMac then so I was planning to upgrade my old G4, but some extra money came and I bought the new iMac. Do you think I need to re-install from the retail DVD and not from the upgrade one that came inside the iMac?

Hal Itosis · Dec 18, 2007, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by I WAS the One

Do you think I need to re-install from the retail DVD and not from the upgrade one that came inside the iMac?

Use the "upgrade" DVD that came with that Mac.

It's really a *full* Leopard install, that requires no previous Tiger on the HD
(so erasing the HD is fine)... but, it will only work on the Mac it came with.

I WAS the One · Dec 18, 2007, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis

Use the "upgrade" DVD that came with that Mac.

It's really a *full* Leopard install, that requires no previous Tiger on the HD
(so erasing the HD is fine)... but, it will only work on the Mac it came with.

And why can't I use the retail version DVD on the iMac? I think it will work fine... right?? not?

64stang06 · Dec 18, 2007, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis

Use the "upgrade" DVD that came with that Mac.

It's really a *full* Leopard install, that requires no previous Tiger on the HD
(so erasing the HD is fine)... but, it will only work on the Mac it came with.

Wrong. While the upgrade disc is in fact a full install, you DO need a previous OS installed in order to proceed. You can then choose to do an erase and install from within the installer to do a clean install. This is NOT tied to a specific machine, it's just a drop in disc that was included in all computers that didn't ship with Leopard.

Hal Itosis · Dec 18, 2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by 64stang06

Wrong. While the upgrade disc is in fact a full install, you DO need a previous OS installed in order to proceed. You can then choose to do an erase and install from within the installer to do a clean install. This is NOT tied to a specific machine, it's just a drop in disc that was included in all computers that didn't ship with Leopard.

OH $h!+. Then why is Leopard working on my brand new MacBook Pro
which I totally erased and partitioned and installed fresh? Please help.

And what was that note I read in the box that said the disk *was* tied to this Mac?
[I must have dreamt that too.]

Hal Itosis · Dec 18, 2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by I WAS the One

And why can't I use the retail version DVD on the iMac? I think it will work fine... right?? not?

Never said you couldn't.

Do it your way, and use the disk that came with your Mac as a coaster if you want.

I WAS the One · Dec 19, 2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis

Never said you couldn't.

Do it your way, and use the disk that came with your Mac as a coaster if you want.

HEY, hey hey... what's going on in here? I just wanna know what's wrong and what wasn't. I really ask because I really don't know what to do. Please Don't take me wrong here. I apreciate your help. sorry if I said something that offend you. It wasn't my intention.

64stang06 · Dec 19, 2007, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis

OH $h!+. Then why is Leopard working on my brand new MacBook Pro
which I totally erased and partitioned and installed fresh? Please help.

And what was that note I read in the box that said the disk *was* tied to this Mac?
[I must have dreamt that too.]

Because yours shipped with Leopard. My 20" Aluminum iMac did not, but there is a disc labeled Drop In Kit CPU, which is NOT tied to my computer. I'm not being an arrogant person, just pointing it out.

Hal Itosis · Dec 19, 2007, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by 64stang06

Because yours shipped with Leopard. My 20" Aluminum iMac did not, but there is a disc labeled Drop In Kit CPU, which is NOT tied to my computer. I'm not being an arrogant person, just pointing it out.

Okay... well, actually my mid-November MBP shipped with 10.4.10 installed, plus
a "Mac OS X Leopard CPU Drop-in DVD" that says 'Not For Resale' on the paper case,
and 'This software is part of a hardware bundle -- not to be sold separately' right on
the DVD itself.

That is what I meant by "tied to". I don't think this DVD will work on other hardware...
though, perhaps it might work with some other MacBook Pro. However, doing so would
also be illegal... and that's another interpretation of "tied to" which I was applying.

At any rate, the best answer to the original question is for the person to use the
Leopard DVD that came with their particular Mac on that particular Mac... and save
their general retail Leopard DVD for some other purpose.

Many things are possible perhaps... but some make more sense than others.

64stang06 · Dec 19, 2007, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis

Okay... well, actually my mid-November MBP shipped with 10.4.10 installed, plus
a "Mac OS X Leopard CPU Drop-in DVD" that says 'Not For Resale' on the paper case,
and 'This software is part of a hardware bundle -- not to be sold separately' right on
the DVD itself.

That is what I meant by "tied to". I don't think this DVD will work on other hardware...
though, perhaps it might work with some other MacBook Pro. However, doing so would
also be illegal... and that's another interpretation of "tied to" which I was applying.

At any rate, the best answer to the original question is for the person to use the
Leopard DVD that came with their particular Mac on that particular Mac... and save
their general retail Leopard DVD for some other purpose.

Many things are possible perhaps... but some make more sense than others.

Gotcha, sorry for the confusion