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JamesRedwood · Dec 22, 2007, 06:59 AM

Hello,

I ve just bought a brand new shiny leopard install DVD

In the past I normally always make 2 copies of the install DVD just in case things go horribly wrong and I need to do a fresh install of the OS.

Is there anything special about Leopard which prevents you from doing this.

Nero complains that the contents wont fit on a DVD so I m not sure how to do the copy

Ideas?

Thanks

Cold Warrior · Dec 22, 2007, 09:01 AM

I think it's a dual-layer DVD, hence Nero's rejection if you only have single-layer capability. There ar a number of tutorials floating around the web and here, e.g.,
clone leopard install dvd to external drive - Google Search

and http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...mp;btnG=Search

Just as a couple examples.

JamesRedwood · Dec 22, 2007, 09:14 AM

How do you find out on Windows if you have a dual layer or single layer DVD burner?

Do you know?

Cold Warrior · Dec 22, 2007, 09:20 AM

I'd just google the manufacturer and model number for your DVD burner, if you're using an external one. If you're using a Mac, you could visit everymac.com for specs.

analogika · Dec 22, 2007, 09:28 AM

The other part of this question is: what about the Windows partition on the Leopard DVD, where all the Windows drivers live?

How do you make a safety copy of that?

64stang06 · Dec 22, 2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

The other part of this question is: what about the Windows partition on the Leopard DVD, where all the Windows drivers live?

How do you make a safety copy of that?

You could use Disk Utility to make a master copy of the DVD to your drive and then burn it. That will help preserve the Windows drivers as well.

analogika · Dec 22, 2007, 11:21 AM

Are you sure that creating a disk image from an optical drive will include the (invisible) Windows partition?

Because that's what I did, and Disk Utility only shows one partition, as Mac OS Extended.

Cold Warrior · Dec 22, 2007, 02:27 PM

Winclone (latest is 1.6) will make a good copy of your Boot Camp partition.

analogika · Dec 22, 2007, 03:14 PM

Who the hell is talking about Boot Camp?

We're talking about the Leopard install DVD.

Art Vandelay · Dec 22, 2007, 03:20 PM

Which has a PC partition on it for the BootCamp drivers.

analogika · Dec 22, 2007, 03:56 PM

Which is apparently NOT copied when using Disk Utility.

Would WinClone work for this?

kelso · Dec 22, 2007, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Who the hell is talking about Boot Camp?

We're talking about the Leopard install DVD.

You don't have to be rude. He probably just misread your post. People here help you on there free time and they do not have to help you if they choose. So I'd be nicer if I were you.

I was able to successfully clone my leopard DVD using toast. You could try that if you have it.

64stang06 · Dec 22, 2007, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Are you sure that creating a disk image from an optical drive will include the (invisible) Windows partition?

Because that's what I did, and Disk Utility only shows one partition, as Mac OS Extended.

Yes. It will be invisible until you insert the disc in Windows. When you have the original Leopard disc, does the Windows drivers side show up on the Mac? Not for me, but once I'm in Windows, the auto-launcher for the drivers works.

analogika · Dec 23, 2007, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by kelso

You don't have to be rude. He probably just misread your post. People here help you on there free time and they do not have to help you if they choose. So I'd be nicer if I were you.

I've been around these forums for over eight years, and I'd like to think over that time, I've contributed as much information as I've gleaned.

I can certainly take getting snapped at if I've completely missed the mark due to inattentiveness.

Cold Warrior is no newbie either.

Still, sorry if it came off a little harsh.

Cold Warrior · Dec 23, 2007, 11:24 AM

It did, but apology accepted. I have also been around a while (since 2000), and would like to think I have contributed. I simply missed your 'invisible' Windows partition, and read it as just 'Windows partition', which is why I then thought Boot Camp partition + backup/copy solution.

In our attempts to post helpful info, sometimes we miss a couple key words.

forumhound · Dec 26, 2007, 05:10 AM

Simple Solution: Use your Time Machine Drive as Your Install Disk

Here is what we did with all our macs that are now running leopard:

1) Each machine has a usb backup drive for time machine (larger then box harddrive, enough space for time machine backups + 8gigs to hold the Leopard install disk

2) We got time machine running on the external drives, and then just used Carbon Copy Cloner (latest version) to clone the Install disks to the Time Machine backup drives.

3) Now each machine has all it needs to do a restore/repair/reinstall whatever when it needs to do. Drives are cheap, USB enclosures cheaper, and no worries about lost physical DVDs.

I just verified this solution by booting to the time machine drive (which will bring up the Leopard install routine) and just selected restore from Time Machine. Takes about 2 hours for a MBP, and works great.

As double protection I personally have another external USB drive that is just a pure clone of my internal drive. I clone my drive weekly (CCC is great) and then unplug that drive and put away someplace safe (not telling where). It's bootable and usable in case something goes wrong with the mbp internal drive and a replacement is not handy. I refuse to loose time / work over hardware or software problems ever again (15 years of working with PCs almost wore me out in that regard). Now there is no reason that I can see for any such nonsense. Well, hope this helps....

ronss · Dec 27, 2007, 01:37 AM

find out if your drive is dual layer, look at your burner, get the model number , manufacturer...google it then ,,or got to the manufacturer,s website,,,you should be able to find out that way....also,,,this place reviews a lot of burners.

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