[Calenulma]

The Apple Keyboard is very anoying in one thing: the dot key in the numeric keybard.
Why? Because it's not a dot, it's a coma, and using the calculator with that is impossible.

Anyway to change ONLY THAT key?

[TETENAL]

It's a dot in English keyboard layouts (amongst others). And if you are using another language keyboard layout, why don't you use a matching number format? Then the calculator would accept the comma as decimal separator.

[JKT]

If you look in your menubar at the top of the screen, what country's flag do you see?

As TETENAL has said, the decimal separator in many languages is actually a comma and not a point. If your keyboard setting is for one of those languages then you will get a comma as you are doing. You could switch to e.g. the US or UK keyboard layout depending on which keyboard (physical) you have - if it has writing on the buttons like 'enter' and 'clear' in the screen shot you posted, it is probably a US layout keyboard.

[ibook_steve]

Note: You have to enable "Show input menu in menu bar" in the "Input Menu" tab of the "International" preferences to see the "flag" that JKT is talking about.

Steve

[Calenulma]

Well, the flag I could see but I don't like it.
I'm using the portuguese keyboard layout. I could use another but it would become a lot harder to type porquese words like... like my name: João. Se the "ã"?

Is it possible to change the decimal separator manually?
That's what I ment to ask in the first place but sometimes I forget that simple thing: internet it's an universal place. (;

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The decimal separator should be the dot:

[TETENAL]

You find the number format in System Preferences->International->Formats. In both the Brazilian and the Portuguese setting the decimal separator is the comma. And Calculator.app picks that up correctly, ie. displays the correct decimal separator on its keypad and accepts it as input. Now that I actually try it out I also find that Calculator.app always considers a press on that key as decimal separator even if it's not corresponding to what is set in the numbers format. So I can't reproduce your problem at all actually.

[Chuckit]

In System Preferences, go to International -> Formats. You might have to click "Show All Formats," but Portuguese is in there.

[Calenulma]

Right you are about the Calculator.app but both the Dashboard Calculator and any other app (TextEdit, TextMate, etc.) the that keystroke goes "," and not "." (see image in my previous post).


Thanks!

[turtle777]

So, essentially, you want to use a Portuguese layout with English number formats.

Short answer: not possible.

Long shot answer: you could try altering the keyboard layout with Ukelele, but I have never been able to make it work.

But since it's free, you might wanna give it a try.

-t

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Calenulma 

Right you are about the Calculator.app but both the Dashboard Calculator and any other app (TextEdit, TextMate, etc.) the that keystroke goes "," and not "." (see image in my previous post).

Yes, because in Portugal this is the decimal separator. When you type numbers in TextEdit, then you want to use the comma.

[Calenulma]

Not doubting you guys, it's kind of stupid, then.
I mean, the key it self it's a dot and, as we can see in the Format settings, the decimal separator actually is a dot. The comma is a thousands separator.

All this is very annoying when we're using Numbers'08 filling out tables with several values.

I'll try that Ukelele (not know 'cause I'm on a M$ laptop). Thank sturtle777.


BTW: what's the keyboard layout and number format on your keyboards?
I'm asking because every other Windows computer uses the dot as a decimal separator (so does my Apple Keyboard when using Windows via Bootcamp).
See my doubt?

[Chuckit]

Your computer can't see what's printed on the keycap. All it knows is that you told it you're using a Portuguese key layout, and the Portuguese key layout specifies that that's supposed to be a comma.

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Calenulma 

Not doubting you guys, it's kind of stupid, then.
I mean, the key it self it's a dot and, as we can see in the Format settings, the decimal separator actually is a dot. The comma is a thousands separator.

No, the decimal separator in Portugal is a comma.

All this is very annoying when we're using Numbers'08 filling out tables with several values.

Numbers picks up what is specified in the Formats section of the International System Preferences. You use a Portugese keyboard layout and live in Portugal, so use the Portuguese number formats and your problem is gone.

[Calenulma]

Praise the gods, I'm not crazy! eh eh

So, regardless of what the keyboard as printed on it, the decimal separator WAS set on dot, as you can see on my previous screenshot, therefore my confusion. The system was setup as I wanted it to be but it wasn't responding as it should (notice the "Portugal (English)" Format).

[Spheric Harlot]

FWIW:

In 10.5 on my system, the Dashboard calculator accepts BOTH comma AND full stop as decimal separators.

It didn't used to, IIRC, but I just tried it.

Interesting.

[JKT]

Originally Posted by Calenulma 

Praise the gods, I'm not crazy! eh eh

So, regardless of what the keyboard as printed on it, the decimal separator WAS set on dot, as you can see on my previous screenshot, therefore my confusion. The system was setup as I wanted it to be but it wasn't responding as it should (notice the "Portugal (English)" Format).

If you look at your screenshot, you will also see a warning that not all applications are compatible with that keyboard setting (I wonder when it was introduced... could be relatively new given that some of the apps that don't appear to support it are actually Apples!).

Btw, you also have to quit and re-launch any apps for keyboard settings to take if you change them - so if you still aren't seeing the expected behaviour for whatever keyboard setting you have selected try doing that first.