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Hi guys can you tell me how to auto hide finder toolbar?
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Jun 25, 2009, 07:30 AM
 
Hi all, thanks for reading.

If you press command+shift+t, it can just hide the toolbar of one folder, and new folder will still have a toolbar.
Can I hide them all?

Also, can I make folder opened in the same window when toolbar and sidebar is hidden?
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Jun 25, 2009, 07:40 AM
 
1. If you hide the toolbar in a window, the Finder should remember that it's hidden. The problem is, the behavior isn't global so the results aren't consistent. You have to manually hide the toolbar in each window, and if you start navigating using a window with a toolbar, you'll probably overwrite the no-toolbar setting.

2. Hiding the toolbar forces new windows to open instead of opening in the same window. It's a feature that unfortunately cannot be overridden because of the broken approach Apple took to Finder functionality in this regard.

The issue here is that with OS X Apple did away with the Spatial Finder we had under the classic Mac OS. Instead, we got a blending of browsing and spacial views in one combined mode, so the results are inconsistent. Apple originally wanted browser functionality only, but people complained about the lack of a spatial mode. So instead of making a global preference between the two modes, Apple came up with a retarded compromise in which toggling the toolbar would force would force folders to open in new windows. People like me have been arguing for years that it would be very simple for Apple to cleanly separate the two modes and give the user a choice of one or the other, but that was never provided. If the two modes were truly separated, you would be able to hide the toolbar in browser mode or have the toolbar in spatial mode (the latter of which you do get if you check to always force folders to open in new windows in Finder preferences). The release of Leopard provided some improvements to the Finder's tracking of window settings that gave more satisfaction to the critics, but given that the real fix is so obvious it's still disappointing.
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Jun 25, 2009, 12:38 PM
 
Thank you. I get it.
If so I think the logic chain of Mac OS GUI seems to be broken here.
     
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Jun 25, 2009, 01:43 PM
 
Yeah, pretty much. If I were CEO for a day a lot of things would get fixed.

If you're interested in getting annoyed over the topic (and a number of others, read some of the OS X articles by John Siracusa.

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Jun 25, 2009, 04:09 PM
 
I'm still curious about the Snow Leopard Finder. Apple's said that it still looks the same, but I wonder if it's become any more consistent during its switch to Cocoa.

Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
If you're interested in getting annoyed over the topic (and a number of others, read some of the OS X articles by John Siracusa.
I hear he's mellowed out ever since Leopard fixed his pet Terminal bug:

Originally Posted by John Siracusa
Fixed! Can you believe it? A new look, tabs, and the ability to render bit-mapped fonts as well as a Mac 128k. My cup runneth over.
     
   
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