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Cisco Aironet Access Point and AirPort Card?
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Jan 9, 2003, 08:14 PM
 
I see lots of posts about using a Cisco wireless card, but I have a Cisco Aironet base station at work, and want to use my AirPort. However, the AirPort shows no base stations, but my Dell PeeCee with the Cisco card communicates OK.

It's using this LEAP authentication...any help?
     
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Jan 10, 2003, 08:35 AM
 
we're getting our Cisco AP's next week
(replacing Wavelan) but my first thought
is that the Cisco APs have been told
to create a 'closed network' so that
you MUST apriori know the network ID (aka
SSID) beforehand. This prevents the
AP from broadcasting its presence.

Also, you can tell Airport to do LEAP
by (I'm doing this from memory here)...

<username, passwd>

but googlecheck that.

Go into the PeeCee and find the
network/SSID name and in Airport,
tell it to connect to 'Other...'
and put the SSID in there.
     
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Jan 10, 2003, 10:08 AM
 
It's a standard wireless network security procedure to turn off SSID broadcast-this means that the access point(s) doesn't/don't act as a beacon ("Here I am, and my network name is..."). It works, too; you didn't see the network using your AirPort card, so you wouldn't have known that there was one there if you hadn't already known. That's kind of a simplistic explanation, but that's the basic reason to not broadcast the SSID.
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Jan 13, 2003, 06:18 PM
 
My school also uses Cisco Aironet base stations. They do broadcast their presence, but you can't access anything until you connect to the VPN through the Cisco VPN Client.

Why, I'm unsure.

jrbd
     
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Jan 14, 2003, 05:27 AM
 
Originally posted by JustenBias:
My school also uses Cisco Aironet base stations. They do broadcast their presence, but you can't access anything until you connect to the VPN through the Cisco VPN Client.

Why, I'm unsure.

jrbd
Why? Security, security, security! Unless they do something like this, then ANYBODY can use their network. Sure, no student would ever think about taking advantage of this open network to spam, send abusive emails or otherwise be a pain in the butt (yeah, right!), but anyone else could easily do that. Imagine the president of the university having to explain to the Justice Department why his school was hammering half the globe with viruses and porno-spam. (Ok, that could be a really cool mental image, but the president of the school has had that mental image too, and was not amused.)

A home user could feel pretty safe as a very small fish (that's wrong, but almost understandable), but it's kind of hard to just pick up a school and move it, and that's pretty much the same level of challenge that reworking a whole, campus-wide wireless network would be.
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Jan 23, 2003, 12:33 PM
 
Well currently airport cards don't support LEAP. You would need to be using the cisco card, and the cisco Aironet Client Utility, which support LEAP. LEAP is similar to WEP, but allegedly better.

The VPN aspect is entirely different issue.

st
If its already broken, how can I mess it up by trying to fix it?
     
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Jan 23, 2003, 02:40 PM
 
Originally posted by stmoddell:
Well currently airport cards don't support LEAP. You would need to be using the cisco card, and the cisco Aironet Client Utility, which support LEAP. LEAP is similar to WEP, but allegedly better.

The VPN aspect is entirely different issue.

st
This is not correct. The school I go to uses LEAP on Cisco wireless LAN and I connect all the time using the Airport card inside my TiBook 400, although occasionally I have to revalidate. You have to use the format <username\password> (the <> are necessary) to logon.
     
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Feb 9, 2003, 05:11 PM
 
Originally posted by GHPorter:
It's a standard wireless network security procedure to turn off SSID broadcast-this means that the access point(s) doesn't/don't act as a beacon ("Here I am, and my network name is..."). It works, too; you didn't see the network using your AirPort card, so you wouldn't have known that there was one there if you hadn't already known. That's kind of a simplistic explanation, but that's the basic reason to not broadcast the SSID.
For those who don't broadcast the SSID's, is it possible to save the setting so all you have to do is enter in the SSID and the computer will remember the wep for you to log on? Or do you just have to do this all manually everytime??

Mike
     
   
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