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Wireless Users: How to detect?
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Feb 24, 2003, 02:13 PM
 
Hey all,
I have a Linksys BEFW11S4 and I share the wireless connectivity with my neighbors (condo). If they were hard-wired, I could see the lights on the Linksys telling me they were using the access - but if they're wireless (and my iBook too), how can I know if they're on? There aren't any lights on the Linksys, or features in the Linksys Admin through the browser. I gave them all the WEP password, so I'm not tying to keep them off - but is there a way to see when they're on?

Thanks!
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Feb 24, 2003, 07:10 PM
 
My router isn't in front of me at the moment, but there is a page that shows what ips are connected, including wifi machines.
     
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Feb 24, 2003, 07:17 PM
 
Hey there,
Well... I know there's a page that displays which DHCP IP addresses have been assigned and are being used; but not with Assigned IP's. I've Assigned them all IP's, so they don't show up on the DHCP page. Ya know?
     
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Feb 24, 2003, 07:27 PM
 
Yes, I just noticed that in the manual. (You didn't say which method you were using.)

Other than that, I don't think there is a way. (Not cheap, anyway.)

(Well, there is the Wireless - Active Mac Table... [ducks since you've probably already tried that])
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Feb 24, 2003, 09:06 PM
 
just assign the ips via DHCP. what would be the down fall to that?
     
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Feb 24, 2003, 09:38 PM
 
If WEP is not enabled, then its easy for your neighbor to just point to the SSID of your router (doesn't XP list all available SSIDs that it can see?) and then the DHCP server will issue an address?

Your neighbor could also just manually assign their PC a static IP address in your subnet (usually 192.168.1.x or 192.168.2.x) and then still use your router.

If you want to keep them out, i think you need to use WEP or put the MAC address of each client (your PCs) in your router setup so that only those clients can connect.

You might want to also change the default login password, so they can't login into the router and view/edit your setup in their favor.
     
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Feb 24, 2003, 10:16 PM
 
Well, I suppose there's no harm in allowing DHCP IP's, but I wanted WEP + no DHCP so that it would be a little tougher to get on.

I just am curious to know when they're on... nothing major. I thought there'd be some sort of shareware that could detect something going on on the wireless network.

Oh, well. Thanks though!
     
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Feb 25, 2003, 12:10 AM
 
Have you tried KisMAC? I could be wrong but i thought that could passively detect users on an AP. It's not as effective as the solution your looking for but its the only thing i can think of.
     
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Feb 25, 2003, 12:12 AM
 
Sorry - I reread the thread and realized all you wanted to do is find out who's on your subnet. A simple ping utility (windows program) could be used to do this. Typcially you provide a start address, say 192.168.1.1 and then it will incrementally ping addresses up to 192.168.1.254. Since you already know the IP addresses of your PCs, if you get replies from "other" IP addresses then that indicates something is on your subnet at that address.
     
   
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