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A couple of wireless questions
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This is my third thread, in this forum and I still cannot decide on my wireless adsl solution ...
If I was to purchase this wireless router and this ethernet modem. Would they both work together to allow me to share my 512 broadband connection between a 700Mhz iBook (with airport) and a 2Ghz Windows XP Laptop (with PCMIA Wireless card)?
Also, what exactly is the point in the airport extreme base station, if you have to then purchase an ethernet modem? what advantages does it give you other than 802.11g connection speeds and a usb printer port?
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Originally posted by PeterClark2002:
This is my third thread, in this forum and I still cannot decide on my wireless adsl solution ...
If I was to purchase this wireless router and this ethernet modem. Would they both work together to allow me to share my 512 broadband connection between a 700Mhz iBook (with airport) and a 2Ghz Windows XP Laptop (with PCMIA Wireless card)?
Also, what exactly is the point in the airport extreme base station, if you have to then purchase an ethernet modem? what advantages does it give you other than 802.11g connection speeds and a usb printer port?
Thanks
Yes to your first question. You should be able to use that combo of external modem + wireless router to share your conection between both your ibook and xp laptop. Since original airport follows the 802.11b spec, you should be fine there. As for your second question, aiport extreme looks better, hehe, No seriously, I think the airport base stations are nice and they work well. But you are going to pay more for essentially the same thing. The reason why people buy it is the integration with other Mac products. The airports use the same lucent chips in them as some of the other base stations. I like my Orinoco (Proxim) AP-200 802.11b. It works nice with my windows and mac computers and after modifying it, I was able to add the orinoco range extender antenna for better reception. This or any netgear or linksys should work well. I'm sure everybody has their opinion as to what they like the most.
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NO, THIS WILL NOT DO WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.
That router is "wireless ready" which means absolutely nothing, basically. It is a wired router, NOT wireless.
I remember your other threads. In one I recommended the Netgear MR814. That is a wireless router, just like Apple's ABS. They are both (basically) routers with buit in wireless capabilities. The Netgear has more ports and is arguably more configurable. The ABS is, well, made by Apple. It also can have a USB printer port, which is definitely cool. If you want to network a printer, the ABS is a cost effective solution.
Any ethernet DSL modem should work fine.
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So I need that Netgear router plus an ethernet modem?
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Dude-
Yes. You need a modem. You need a router. The modem does one thing, the router something else. They are two different things. They do not perform the same job. They are not interchangeable. If you get a modem only, you will not be able to share the internet and have wireless connectivity. If you just get the router, you will be able to set up a LAN and share files between your computers, but you will not have internet service. So to do what you want, YOU NEED BOTH A MODEM AND A ROUTER. It does not need to be THAT router, but that is a good one. If you prefer, you could get an Apple Airport base station instead. It doesn't matter. As far as I know, any ethernet based (important) DSL modem will work fine. The modem does not need "routing capabilities", as the one you linked to describes.
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okay thanks for the help.
I am going to order -
this router and this WAP
 I've been told by tons of places this will work, right?
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We've been through all this before... That combination is doing it backwards. I don't get it. I've tried to be extremely clear in my posts.
You need a modem (just a modem)
You need a wireless router (like the MR814)
The two things you listed are just like the two you linked to in one of your other threads. They are a combination modem/router and a stand-alone AP. This is still, in my opinion, the wrong way of doing it. Why not just get a DSL modem and a wireless router, like everybody (including myself) has been suggesting to you? This is definitely the best way of doing it.
Get a DSL modem (just a modem)
Get a wireless router (like the Netgear MR814 or Apple BS or Asante FR1004)
EDIT
The site you linked to does not seem to offer the MR814. Either shop around more or check out their MR314UK, which is the predecessor to the 814.
(Last edited by aaanorton; Mar 3, 2003 at 01:56 PM.
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ADSL Modem & built in router
So this ADSL Modem & built in router, wont act as a router? even though it states it has a modem built in?
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Yes, it probably will, but IT TIES YOUR MODEM AND ROUTER TOGETHER. This is not such a great idea. Go back to that other thread of yours I linked to and read my reasoning there (about 3/4 of the way down). I could probably come up with some more reasons against this approach, but those are definitely enough, in my opinion.
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I re read that post and noticed you recomended this router, so I may follow your recomendations and purchase a e-net modem like this one. That would give the same functionality as having a modem/router with a wap. But as you said you'll be able to change the modem, if needed 
Sorry for being so dumb earlier in the thread 
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Yay! That's it. Should work fine.
You may want to shop around a little more and see if you can find the Netgear MR814. The 814 has replaced the 314. Both are great, though. I'm not even sure what the differences are. Still, it may be worth a shot to look around at some other stores.
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I have found it but it is more, and I am on a tight budget. So I'll stick with the above options. Seeing as it gives no extra options  Gonna order tonight, yay 
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