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Personal Web Manager and Adelphia Cable Modem
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Apr 17, 2003, 04:42 PM
 
Since I moved to Adelphia Powerlink Cable, I haven't been able to share documents in my SITES folder, through Personal Web Sharing.

Today I found out that Adelphia blocks port 80, to any incoming TCP/IP requests.


I was just wondering:

1) Isn't that so WRONG???
2) Isn't there a way around?
     
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Apr 17, 2003, 07:19 PM
 
Where did you find this out?

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Apr 17, 2003, 07:21 PM
 
Adelphia's Powerlink doesn't block port 80 for me.

Are you now behind a router? Did you forward the port if you are?
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 01:31 AM
 
Originally posted by danielb0101:
Adelphia's Powerlink doesn't block port 80 for me.

Are you now behind a router? Did you forward the port if you are?

Strange, because that's what a senior Adelphia technician told me over the phone (he said that they block port 80 because they don't want their users to host websites on their local machines: he said it would slow down the traffic). I'm in Los Angeles - do they have different policies in different states?

I'm connected directly to the cable modem (no router involved).
     
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Apr 18, 2003, 10:05 AM
 
Unfortunately, the Adelphia tech was right. If a bunch of users host web sites, then the whole system could slow down dramatically. Not just because of individuals going to those sites, but also because of all the "bots" and web crawlers that map out (and probe for weaknesses in) the web.

Most ISPs have policies about serving from a user's computer, though not all enforce those policies to the same degree. Cable is particularly susceptible to slowdown because of its network topology.

Now, how can you get around this issue? Since you can't use the default port 80 (he said, winding up to a suggestion he HOPES will help, sonce he doesn't have a Mac handy at work to check it out) maybe you could alter the Personal Web Sharing service's settings to use a different port. When you need to access the shared folders remotely, you add the correct port number at the end of the URL, like this: http://my.shared.webs.com:8080/SharedFolder In this example, port 8080 is used, though you can use any port the software will let you use.
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Apr 18, 2003, 02:25 PM
 
Originally posted by GHPorter:
Unfortunately, the Adelphia tech was right. If a bunch of users host web sites, then the whole system could slow down dramatically. Not just because of individuals going to those sites, but also because of all the "bots" and web crawlers that map out (and probe for weaknesses in) the web.

Most ISPs have policies about serving from a user's computer, though not all enforce those policies to the same degree. Cable is particularly susceptible to slowdown because of its network topology.

Now, how can you get around this issue? Since you can't use the default port 80 (he said, winding up to a suggestion he HOPES will help, sonce he doesn't have a Mac handy at work to check it out) maybe you could alter the Personal Web Sharing service's settings to use a different port. When you need to access the shared folders remotely, you add the correct port number at the end of the URL, like this: http://my.shared.webs.com:8080/SharedFolder In this example, port 8080 is used, though you can use any port the software will let you use.

THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR ANSWER.

SO, how do I change the Personal Web Sharing service's settings to use a different port?

Also, the reason why I want to use port 80 is not to share a website.
I'm trying to share my songs with my friends, through two applications: iCommune and mp3 Sushi.

As default, both programs use port 80 to share what's inside the MUSIC folder, and I don't think I can modify the port in the preferences (I can only change the shared folder). Or can I?


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Apr 19, 2003, 12:41 PM
 
I did a little digging, and it looks like changing the port for Personal Web Server is pretty challenging-Apple's TIL#106407 says "don't block port 80."

One fairly easy way to deal with this and other blocked port issues is to buy an inexpensive cable router. Most have the ability to forward ports; that is, to translate an incoming port to another port and/or a specific LAN computer. Most are also very easy to configure. You can find a suitable product for as little as $30 if you shop around.

Of course this won't help if your freinds can't change the ports their software uses to reach your comptuer. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any documentation for either iCommune or mp3 Sushi, so I can't say whether or not it's possible to change the ports.
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Apr 19, 2003, 05:30 PM
 
Originally posted by GHPorter:
I did a little digging, and it looks like changing the port for Personal Web Server is pretty challenging-Apple's TIL#106407 says "don't block port 80."

One fairly easy way to deal with this and other blocked port issues is to buy an inexpensive cable router. Most have the ability to forward ports; that is, to translate an incoming port to another port and/or a specific LAN computer. Most are also very easy to configure. You can find a suitable product for as little as $30 if you shop around.

Of course this won't help if your freinds can't change the ports their software uses to reach your comptuer. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any documentation for either iCommune or mp3 Sushi, so I can't say whether or not it's possible to change the ports.

Thanks a lot. Actually I managed to change the port through terminal. See the following thread: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...46#post1354446
     
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May 1, 2003, 02:30 AM
 
Now I seem to have EXACTLY the same problem with Itunes4 - the file sharing service.

Firewall is off, but nobody can connect to my shared library (which uses port 3689)

And file sharing is on!

Any ideas?
     
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May 1, 2003, 09:33 AM
 
I haven't gotten up to iTunes 4 yet, so anything I might mention would be speculation. My first guess would be to try using Terminal, as with Personal Web Sharing, but I assume you've already tried that.
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May 1, 2003, 11:23 AM
 
Originally posted by GHPorter:
I haven't gotten up to iTunes 4 yet, so anything I might mention would be speculation. My first guess would be to try using Terminal, as with Personal Web Sharing, but I assume you've already tried that.
I tried, but I can't find port 3689 in Terminal.
     
   
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