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Apr 23, 2003, 02:24 PM
 
Hi, folks, I hope someone can help me out here. I'm setting up a wireless network based on a desktop G4 that will be hooked to an AEBS, serving as a web router. Several remote machines will surf through this machine.

Email is going to be a bottleneck, though. Typically we d/l the day's messages to the desktop machine for later reading (we keep a lot of back messages for technical reference).

Is there an email client that will let several remote machines share the same local email DB? In other words, after getting all the incoming emails onto the desktop machine, can multiple remote users then read at the same time?

Sorry if this isn't clear. Thanks in advance!

-Duke
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Apr 23, 2003, 09:43 PM
 
I'm not sure if i understand exactly what you want, but from the sounds of it, i think you want to set up the desktop G4 to act as a local mail hub. You can do that with a combo of fetchmail and maybe an IMAP server. This would allow a single computer to pull mail in from an external source (or sources) on any kind of schedule you like, and then serve it up to local clients on demand. IMAP would allow multiple clients to share the eMail DB. Check out the Mail and FetchMail links on Things UNIX.
     
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Apr 24, 2003, 08:31 AM
 
That's exactly what I'm looking for. I'll check out that information on Fetchmail.

I'd like the desktop machine to be the local hub for incoming mail, since it is permanently located near the AEBS and is almost always on. It would keep the local mail files after they come off the ISP server. Then I want my wife, kids, etc. to be able to access their mail from their own machines via our network.

Some followup questions:

1) Do all the machines need to run Jaguar? The only one I'm really worried about is a 266mhz Tangerine iMac with 256mb RAM. It's currently on 9.2.

2) Will I need any additional hardware?

Thanks for all your help. Any other insight you can offer will be appreciated!

-Duke

EDIT: Man, Fetchmail doesn't look to be for the faint of heart. I've got about 49 minutes of experience using OSX. Anything commercial available? Thanks again - I sincerely appreciate it.
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Apr 24, 2003, 11:12 AM
 
1) Do all the machines need to run Jaguar?
No, only the mail hub. The other machines may use any OS. The only caveat is that the OS support a compatible eMail client.

Note: From your original description, i thought that maybe you needed the capabilities of IMAP, but from your second post, it sounds like an ordinary POP or POP3 system might do too. Many mail packages support both, but POP/POP3 is still more common.

2) Will I need any additional hardware?
No. If all your machines can talk to each other now, that is all you need.

Man, Fetchmail doesn't look to be for the faint of heart. I've got about 49 minutes of experience using OSX.
Ha ha. Well, i know this UNIX command line stuff can be intimidating at first, and some people do seem to have problems getting the configuration file right, but i found it to be fairly painless and straightforward. But it's been a couple years since i delved into Fetchmail, so perhaps time has softened my recollection? The good news is that Fetchmail is installed as part of Jaguar (assuming the BSD subsystem was installed, of course), so you don't have to hassle with downloading and installing it. You need only worry about configuring and invoking it.

Anything commercial available?
There may very well be, but i can't recall any offhand. Fetchmail is what most people use.

Now it is important to point out that Fetchmail's job is simply to pull eMail into your mail hub. Since your desktop is "almost always on," you could omit Fetchmail if you set up your machine to accept eMail as it arrives, but that's a whole other can of worms, and potentially more complicated. However there definitely are commercial software packages to solve that problem. It also requires a static IP.

The reason why this approach would work is that, typically, when eMail can't be delivered immediately (i.e. because the recieving server is down), the sender will retry sending the message approximately every hour for five days.

But Fetchmail solves a number of problems (such as eliminating the need for a static IP), and minimizes the chances of lost mail (as mail is delivered to an always up mailserver, and then downloaded to your part-time server), so it might be to your advantage to at least attempt Fetchmail. But i can understand where you might not want to get into UNIX command line stuff (i.e. using the Terminal.app).

One tip, however, which may help a lot: Many tutorials suggest using command line editors for editing configuration files. I have never understood this at all. This is akin, in my mind, to telling drivers to buy crude oil and refine their own gasoline. A file is a file, and it does not matter what kind of editor you use to create or edit it. I never use command line editors, even though i do a lot of command line work.

All you have to watch out for (when using GUI editors) are two things: 1) line endings must be UNIX style endings, and not traditional MacOS style, and 2) files need to be saved as plaintext, and not Rich Text or the like (i.e. no formatting). MacOS X's TextEdit can do the job, but many people prefer BBEdit Lite. Personally, i like Tex-Edit Plus. But any of these can do the job, so it's just personal preference.
     
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Apr 25, 2003, 08:14 AM
 
Wow, thanks for the great information. I really appreciate the effort.
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