[sanity assassin]

hi,

After a lengthy battle of the minds between me and home netowrking, I've managed to get my webserver up and running, and an andsl modem, and router.

Ran into a slight problem though, the site can be seen by anyone outside my network, but if I try and view it behind the firewall/network, it throws up the router's web-based interface instead of the site, not sure what's going on, but any help appreciated.

[ghporter]

It's probably a function of having the server in a "DMZ" in your router. This makes it visible to the outside world, but protects the rest of your network from the outside world.

Is there a reason you don't want to go through the Internet connection to see what the world is seeing on your site?

[fromthecloud]

I think what's happening is that you have set up port forwarding on you router. What this does is that whenever your router receives a packet on the web port (80) from outside the network it forwards it to the machine serving as the webserver. What this also means, is that the address for your webserver is the same as your router since your router is pretending to be that server, but instead just being a relay point. Inside your network, when you type in the address for you webserver, it goes to the router, but it is not forwarded since the request came from inside the network.

Take a look at the network settings on your webserver to determine the internal (DHCP) IP address your webserver has been assigned, and type that into the browser on the other machine behind your network.

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by fromthecloud:

Take a look at the network settings on your webserver to determine the internal (DHCP) IP address your webserver has been assigned, and type that into the browser on the other machine behind your network.

Thanks, that's it, I used the internal IP address of the server assigned by the router, and it displayed the page fine.

Thanks again.

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by GHPorter:
It's probably a function of having the server in a "DMZ" in your router. This makes it visible to the outside world, but protects the rest of your network from the outside world.

Is there a reason you don't want to go through the Internet connection to see what the world is seeing on your site?

I did have the server in the DMZ for a while cause it wouldn't see the Net at all, but I took it off and found out that the problem was something else. what fromthecloud said was what was happeneing, and once I put in the local IP address, it was fine.

Thanks.

[ghporter]

Great. Happy surfing (and serving!).

[Love Calm Quiet]

Could I impose on you to describe your setup? I'd like to start dabbling in serving from home setup with an extra OS X box I've got around.

You know, like: what mac cpu; what IP service (cable, provider); what sort of router; what sort of serving process (Personal Web Sharing / Xserve / any MySQL dbs) ; where did you find an overview of how to set it up?

Don't mean to impose, but I'd like to start self-training in these black arts

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by Love Calm Quiet:
Could I impose on you to describe your setup? I'd like to start dabbling in serving from home setup with an extra OS X box I've got around.

You know, like: what mac cpu; what IP service (cable, provider); what sort of router; what sort of serving process (Personal Web Sharing / Xserve / any MySQL dbs) ; where did you find an overview of how to set it up?

Don't mean to impose, but I'd like to start self-training in these black arts

Yeah, of course.

The computers I have:

Apple Powerbook G3 400mhz (Pismo) running Panther on the internal HD, and Jaguar (10.2.8) on an external firewire drive.

2x SGI Octane R10k one with MXI Graphics, the other with ESI.

Windows XP Athlon based computer.
They're hooked up to some cheapo router which I got jsut so I could try out a home network, but seems to be fine so far. The adsl modem is a d-link 300g+ and that';s also plugged into the router.

I'm in the UK and using bulldogdsl as my service provider http://www.bulldogdsl.com , they're pretty good, offer some excellent packages too.

At the moment, the Powerbook is used as the webserver, but i'm going to use one of the SGI's for it, just need to set it up.
For the webserver, I'm using Apache2 so I don't use Panther's built-in server, which is Apache 1.3. Server logistics offer a nice installer and Sys Prefs tool to control it, http://www.serverlogistics.com

One of the reasons for setting it up was because my g/f wants to use MySQL, and set up an online shop, and then later for us to use the DB for clients.

I'm not really that knowledgeable about networks, and most of it is done through trial and error, reading up, and getting help in here and other forums. The people at this forum were really helpful: http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/sharing

Hope that helps.

Regards

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by GHPorter:
Great. Happy surfing (and serving!).

Thanks for the help. Cheers

[Love Calm Quiet]

Thanks for the MOST excellent help, Sanity... and the good news. Actually I've also got an extra Pismo 400 that I want to use (and, thanks to eSuite Apache2 on it).

Also want to have a local place for testing out PHP/MySQL operations - so sounds similar.

Thanks again - and good luck to your g/f's online shop - now THERE's an ambitious undertaking.

Regards to the UK!

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by Love Calm Quiet:
Thanks for the MOST excellent help, Sanity... and the good news. Actually I've also got an extra Pismo 400 that I want to use (and, thanks to eSuite Apache2 on it).

Also want to have a local place for testing out PHP/MySQL operations - so sounds similar.

Thanks again - and good luck to your g/f's online shop - now THERE's an ambitious undertaking.

Regards to the UK!

Thank you for the kind comments. Well, she's got her own machine running XP too and been battling her way through SQL, PHP, and anythign else she can lay her hands on, it's quite a task though, and progress is slow at times. She's fortunate in that she's a lecturer at a college os has quite a number of resources at hand, I'm staying well away from the real techy side of things though .

Good to hear you've got a Pismo, cracking machine, and makes a great web developing tool.

Good luck also in what you're doing, make it fun.

Regards

[fromthecloud]

Originally posted by Love Calm Quiet:
Thanks for the MOST excellent help, Sanity... and the good news. Actually I've also got an extra Pismo 400 that I want to use (and, thanks to eSuite Apache2 on it).

Extra Pismo! I want an extra Pismo!