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MikeD · Nov 8, 2003, 04:08 PM

For some reason, every now and then, my second router fails to pass internet through to my wireless computers. I get the 169 IP's. Anyway, I unplug the router and plug it in again and everything works okay. Now, are all my settings on there 'saved' where if the router is unplugged for a day or two when not being used, all the settings will still remain the same?

Mike

fergnetserv · Nov 8, 2003, 05:00 PM

Most of todays routers will retain their seetings after they are unpluged for any length of time.

To reset to factory settings you normally have log on to the router and reset them there.

Some have a factory reset button on the router itself.

MikeD · Nov 9, 2003, 11:44 AM

Okay that solves that issue. Now, why is my router behaving the way it is? I mean, why, when I put my computer to sleep, and wake it up, it doesn't get an IP off the network? Do you think it has to be a DNS server thing that I have to enter? Even when I click to renew the DHCP stuff, it still gives the 169.x.x.x address. I have to unplug that second router and plug it back in to get the working IP picked up..

sigh..

Mike

aaanorton · Nov 9, 2003, 11:48 AM

Why don't you describe your exact setup for us.

MikeD · Nov 9, 2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by aaanorton:
Why don't you describe your exact setup for us.

My current setup can be read in detail in this thread:
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=187296

I just added a 'second' accesspoint for roaming. It's this second router that always needs to be unplugged and replugged in again to get a correct IP.

Mike

aaanorton · Nov 9, 2003, 04:22 PM

Is there a way to set your LAN to 802.11b only? If so, give it a whirl. Then again, maybe that stuff is already b only, I just don't know.
You could try putting the IP address of your 1st router into the DNS field of your 2nd router, but I really think this is an Airport issue. There are a lot of posts here about wake from sleep problems with AE.

MikeD · Nov 9, 2003, 05:37 PM

Well, it's either a thing with my new setup with the two wireless routers, or with the AE card. But I'm leaning more towards how everything is configured etc because my 12" pb and our iBook have been fine with the previous wireless setup...

Mike

fergnetserv · Nov 10, 2003, 08:51 PM

I would check to see if both wireless devices are on the same channel. If they are then I would program the IP, Subnet and Gateway info into the access point. Use an Fixed IP out side of the DHCP range.

MikeD · Nov 10, 2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by fergnetserv:
I would check to see if both wireless devices are on the same channel. If they are then I would program the IP, Subnet and Gateway info into the access point. Use an Fixed IP out side of the DHCP range.

The originating Access Point is on Channel 6.

The WET 11 is on Channel 6 also (Should this be changed)

The second accesspoint which get's the signal from the WET11 I changed to Channel 1.

How does this sound? Should I change the channel of the WET11? I wouldn't think so though because then it probably wouldn't pick up my other basestation right? And am I right to have the second accesspoint to distribute the signal on a different channel?

Mike

John Strung · Nov 10, 2003, 10:01 PM

That sounds right to me. I think you definitely don't want both AP's on the same channel. They would interfere if they were.

However you might try setting the Mac to a fixed IP address. Don't forget that you have to specify the Name Server Address manually when you are using a fixed IP.

If you need advice on how to set up a fixed IP, post back.

ghporter · Nov 11, 2003, 08:12 AM

The WET11 is not an access point. It's a wireless ethernet bridge. If it's supposed to be talking to the access point, it had BETTER be on the same channel!

You should be able to set up all of these Linksys devices using your browser. The potential problem I see is that I think they all come with the SAME DEFAULT IP ADDRESS-192.168.1.1. That means that you have to turn off all of them, plug an ethernet cable into each one and set it's IP to something different. You can leave the item that's connected to your Internet connection on the default address, but everything else needs a unique address.

You should also make sure you've disabled the DHCP server in the second router. Having two DHCP servers on the same LAN is VERY BAD, causing lots of confusion among the computers on the LAN. You should also go into the BEFW11S4's advanced setup and tell it to be a "router" instead of a "gateway," which will make it effectively a remote switch.

I haven't seen anything on this thread or the other one you referred us to that says what your "existing" wireless network hardware is. If you have a router and a separate access point, it's probably time to rearrange everything. The BEFW11S4 should be the Internet gateway device. You can use the WET11 to bridge for the other router, and use it as a switch. The best way to use a separate access point here is to wire it directly to the BEFW11S4 with a LONG cable, give it the same SSID but a different channel, and put it where you need extended wireless range. It is not appropriate to use a WET11 to bridge from your router to a remote access point.

MikeD · Nov 11, 2003, 11:31 AM

Okay this is the setup:
BEFW11S4 (#1) connected to DSL via ppoe. IP is set at 192.168.1.1 on Channel 6
WET11 Configured to receive signal from 192.168.1.1 on Channel 6 (This has a different IP also (Something like 192.168.xxx
BEFW11S4 (#2) Connected to WET11. John Strung helped me out be telling me to connect the WET11 to the 2nd BEFW11S4 in one of the 4 ports (not the 'internet' port. IP configured at 192.168.1.2 DHCP is off, In Dynamic routing (advanced) set to router NOT gateway, and the wireless channel is 1 with the same SSID.

Now, the problems are just random but I always have to unplug the 2nd BEFW11S4 and replug it again to get the correct IP. Do I have to do anything under the static routing section in the advanced settings?

Mike

Originally posted by GHPorter:
The WET11 is not an access point. It's a wireless ethernet bridge. If it's supposed to be talking to the access point, it had BETTER be on the same channel!

You should be able to set up all of these Linksys devices using your browser. The potential problem I see is that I think they all come with the SAME DEFAULT IP ADDRESS-192.168.1.1. That means that you have to turn off all of them, plug an ethernet cable into each one and set it's IP to something different. You can leave the item that's connected to your Internet connection on the default address, but everything else needs a unique address.

You should also make sure you've disabled the DHCP server in the second router. Having two DHCP servers on the same LAN is VERY BAD, causing lots of confusion among the computers on the LAN. You should also go into the BEFW11S4's advanced setup and tell it to be a "router" instead of a "gateway," which will make it effectively a remote switch.

I haven't seen anything on this thread or the other one you referred us to that says what your "existing" wireless network hardware is. If you have a router and a separate access point, it's probably time to rearrange everything. The BEFW11S4 should be the Internet gateway device. You can use the WET11 to bridge for the other router, and use it as a switch. The best way to use a separate access point here is to wire it directly to the BEFW11S4 with a LONG cable, give it the same SSID but a different channel, and put it where you need extended wireless range. It is not appropriate to use a WET11 to bridge from your router to a remote access point.