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AirPort Express: 11g necessary for music streaming?
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Is it necessary to have an 11g card to enjoy the benefits of music streaming? My iBook has an 11b card, but I would like to use an Express base station for printer and music sharing. No more cables 
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Originally posted by OreoCookie:
Is it necessary to have an 11g card to enjoy the benefits of music streaming? My iBook has an 11b card, but I would like to use an Express base station for printer and music sharing. No more cables
802.11g is backwards compatible with 11b ... so why wouldn't it work ?
From Airport Express Tech Specs (footnote 1)
AirPort Express uses the 802.11g wireless standard. Accessing the wireless network requires an AirPort or AirPort Extreme enabled computer or Wi-Fi-certified 802.11b or 802.11g computer. Achieving data rates of 54 Mbps requires that all users have an AirPort Extreme or Wi-Fi-certified 802.11g enabled computer and connect to an AirPort Express Base Station. If a user of a Wi-Fi-certified 802.11b product joins the network, that user will get up to 11 Mbps and AirPort Extreme and Wi-Fi-certified 802.11g users will get less than 54 Mbps.
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Bandwidth concerns.
(I know about the compatibility.)
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Originally posted by OreoCookie:
Bandwidth concerns.
(I know about the compatibility.)
Not sure if this helps but when I had a 500 Mhz TiBook with the original Airport card and Airport Base (graphite) I didn't have any problems with streaming internet audio. This was while the rest of the network was also very active.
Tim
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Originally posted by Tim Kosch:
Not sure if this helps but when I had a 500 Mhz TiBook with the original Airport card and Airport Base (graphite) I didn't have any problems with streaming internet audio. This was while the rest of the network was also very active.
Tim
Thanks.
The thing is that Apple streams it with its new Lossless Encoder which has an efficiency of about 25-50 %. But thanks for the hint 
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Can anyone confirm this? (that you can use a mac with a 11b card to stream music with the Airport Express)
TIA,
Peter
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I have a FP 800MHz iMac with an original Airport card in it (i.e. an 11b card).
I also have an Airport Express basestation which arrived on Friday.
The setup was easy and I now have a wireless network at home for my broadband internet.
PLUS
To put your mind at rest, streaming music to my HiFi from the iMac on the 11b Airport is flawless. I have been using it every day and never had a single drop out of music, all this which I am using the same network to browse the internet.
Looks to me your question has been answered, yes it works great on an Airport 11b network.
Hope that helps,
Ian
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Just the answar I was hoping for :-)
Thanks Parky!
(the only problem is that now I am forced to go and buy an AirPort Express  )
Peter
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Just to support Parky's answer, my APE is a client on my 11b network and streaming to it works fine. I have experienced one night of problems but I didn't figure out why it was having such a problem. My guess is that a file transfer was hogging the wireless bandwidth and causing audio skips but I'm not sure. It's a private, at-home network in the country so it wasn't a neighbor or anything. Oh well, working fine now.
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Originally posted by OreoCookie:
Bandwidth concerns.
(I know about the compatibility.)
Apple Lossless Encoder streams at less than 1 Mbps, I believe, so bandwidth shouldn't be a concern.
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I'm using my PB to wirelessly access my shared music library on my iMac over an Airport 802.11b network. I then stream that to the stereo via an Airport Express working in client mode. The bottom line is that bandwidth is not an issue. 802.11b has plenty of bandwidth for internet, music streaming, or even picture streaming. Now when you get into live video is probably when you'd want to have an 802.11g network.
OAW
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Same here. Streaming using an old airport card from a 17" 800MHz imac to airport express.
Cannot believe how well it works and sounds.
A lot of my music is still 128 kbs mp3 and it sounds great on my stereo.
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My TI Powerbook can do it too. No problems at all!
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