[kerosen]

My qwerty macbook arrived after two weeks of waiting. As far as I can tell everything is ok but during the last two days I was struggeling to connect it to the internet using the airport wifi card.
I have a ADSL modem connected to a wireless gateway router (Belkin). I have 2 windows PCs connected wireless to this router and everything is perfect.
I have cancelled the WEP protection (I know, is worthless...), DHCP enabled. The macbook is connected to the wireless device because it has an allocated IP and Airport says connected. But Safari sees no internet...
What should I put in DHCP Client id field?

If the subject was already posted please indicate the link. I searched on the forum with no success.

Thanks for help.

[analogika]

What is the allocated IP?

And there should be no settings whatsoever necessary beyond selecting the WLAN and entering the password.

[Andhee]

I had something like this, heres my suggestion:

[ Go into System Preferences > Energy Saver > Untick the 'put the hard drive(s) to sleep when possible' ] This bit fixes going to sleep and waking back up with no internet.

Thennnn, go onto 'open network preferences' on the wifi toolbar, click advanced, then go to TCP/IP settings, and put the 'configure IPv6' to 'off', and make sure 'configure IPv4' is 'using DHCP'.

Then do a restart when that stuff has saved, then try your internet. It worked for me, but its easy enough to put back to normal settings if it doesnt work anyway.

Andy.

[kerosen]

The alocated IP is:
IPv4 Address: 192.168.2.19 (as my router will alocate address between 10 and 40, my other PC has 34)
I selected the name of my network correctly and there is no password as the WEP encryption is off.

What is DHCP Client ID?
IPv6 is off and IPv4 is "using DHCP".
Still no success My first Mac expereince got into trouble...

[Sherman Homan]

Sounds like a DNS problem. You shouldn't have to do this, but try putting in the router's IP address into the DNS Server field. If your router is handing out 192.168.2 addresses 10-40 then I assume it has its own address of 192.168.2.1 type that into the DNS Server field.

[Sherman Homan]

Actually, I would start over. Make a new Location, as analogika said, you shouldn't need to enter anything beyond accessing the wireless router and typing in the router's WPA password. By the time you have arrived at figuring out DHCP Client ID and manually turning off IPv6 you have probably gone too far. If your router is old and cranky, enter its IP address into your Mac's DNS field.
DHCP client IDs are usually only used with in-house servers and gateways. They allow a sysadmin to identify your specific computer on the network. I don't know of any ISPs that require them.
If you aren't on an IPv6 network, your router won't care if IPv6 is on, off, manually set, whatever. It won't work, but it won't stop your IPv4 connection.

[kerosen]

I've tried to connect using the Ethernet port direct to the gateway router. It worked immediately, I've done the system updates.
Then back to the airport. There is a DNS entry:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/90...xNnKW.net4.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/90...9ju5v.net1.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/90...HrnKE.net2.jpg
Safari gave a message like it cannot find the server:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/90...PeLNe.net3.jpg

My Belkin router is 5-6 years old and it is working only on .11b wireless standard, not more. I assume there is a problem with the wireless standard between the router and the airport card.
Where can I see all the airport card settings? I would like to force the airport card to work only on 11b standard, is that possible?

What else should I check?

[kerosen]

Here am I:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/90...NP9L4.net5.jpg
Still no internet though...
Is it possible that the airport wireless card is not fully compatible with the old 802.11b wireless standard ?
please help

[Sherman Homan]

Theoretically, it should work. But Belkin hasn't made a B speed only router in more than eight years.
Did you make a new location on the Mac?
Type this in your web browser's address window:
17.149.160.49

[kerosen]

Yes, I've tried different locations in the house, the signal is strong everywhere anyway.
This is my Belkin device: http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/90...FiG.router.jpg
I've tried the path you suggested with no effect (on my PC is going to apple.com). I've tried with 192.168.2.1 which is my web interface for the router (so it has nothing to do with the internet) and doesn't work either even if it says connected.
I am really really stuck... I don't know if it is the router (too old) or the airport extreme card doesn't work correctly.

[Sherman Homan]

Well, you can test your 'Books Airport card at a friend's house, or your office, or any unsecured wireless point.

I've tried with 192.168.2.1 which is my web interface for the router (so it has nothing to do with the internet) and doesn't work either even if it says connected.

Does your Mac go to the router's web interface with the 192.168.2.1 address? Can you configure the router from there?

[kerosen]

Yes, this is what I was thinking about, to test the airport card in a different wireless environment.

No, 192.168.2.1 doesn't work from the macbook, it works ok from my other pc.

[kerosen]

I've just tested the macbook to a friend's wireless network. It works perfect! His router is a Dell, 5 years old, so only .11b standard.
At least now I know that the laptop is ok and the problem is my old Belkin router. Maybe I'll try different settings (not many left though...) to see what happens. Then I'll go for a new one.
Thanks everyone for help.

[ghporter]

If you consider your router to be "old," then there are a couple of ways to go. Maybe Belkin has an updated firmware for it-in which case you should install that and see if it helps. There is a possibility that older hardware doesn't properly support the standards that newer AirPort cards use.

The second item is to upgrade your hardware. With draft n routers starting to fill shelves, it's quite possible that a new G router will be both inexpensive and a good fix for your issues.

A final point is that I have never felt comfortable with Belkin making routers. I have a USB hub by them that is stellar, but router design isn't the same thing as putting a bunch of USB chips together... I'd stick with a network-related company for a new router, one like Linksys, D-Link or even Hawking.

[Sherman Homan]

What ghporter said. There are B/G speed router for cheap money. If your old one won't do WPA then it is time for a new router!

[kerosen]

You wouldn't believe this...
I went on Belkin website to check for the last firmware. I took the last one from their list which turned out to be a beta version (from 2002) and older than my present firmware (april 2003). I did the update anyway and surprise... the macbook connected immmediately.

I'll wait till January and maybe I'll find a .11g Linksys on sales. At least for the WPA security and a higher speed and still worth the money. Anybody knows when the 11n will hit the market? Thanks to all of you.
Happy new year !

[ghporter]

Oh I'll believe it alright. It's crazy sometimes-you'll find stuff on the shelves with firmware dated three, four, five, even more years ago, and the best update may be only a little newer-or OLDER. Happens pretty frequently. Linksys did that a while back with their more popular wireless router, and a lot of people had kittens over it. It's not like you can't flash the router with older firmware or something...

Glad you're connected and all is well. Good luck with the sales!

[Cold Warrior]

Linksys has draft n on the market now, like Apple. Fairly affordable. The regular WRT54G is dirt cheap now.

[kerosen]

Here is how the status of my weird Belkin looks like:
http://i.pbase.com/o4/12/281912/1/91...y3.router2.jpg
I'll check after a proper router this week.
thanks.