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wreks · 10:52 PM

Hey cheers to Apple for making a fast web browser, curses to them that it's brushed metal, has awful buttons, doesn't have tabbed browsing, doesn't have a customizable toolbar, doesn't have a status bar, aren't any favicons in the bookmark bar and generally is pretty darn ugly...

oh well it's a beta and there are some things we can fix ourselves:

Gatorzx2 · Jan 7, 2003, 10:49 PM

Doesn't have a status bar!?

On the menu bar try clicking "view" then check "status bar".

Dace · Jan 7, 2003, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by Gatorzx2:
Doesn't have a status bar!?

On the menu bar try clicking "view" then check "status bar".

Looks like he didn't fully explore it. It does have a status bar (not to mention the address bar shows the progress ) and the toolbar is customizable. I tried it and it seems to have trouble handling cookies. It's a beginning, but a poor one I think.

KidRed · Jan 7, 2003, 11:01 PM

Poor beginning? That's just ludicrous. This thing rocks, it's fast has features Chimera doesn't the bloat that IE doesn't and renders pages the way they were meant to be.

I love it and it is the first browser to dethrown IE on my machine.

Gatorzx2 · Jan 7, 2003, 11:34 PM

I agree, I think it is already a solid browser and will get even better. Remember it is only a beta.

LeeG · Jan 8, 2003, 01:09 AM

Only a beta, and the first I have used to knock off IE - it rocks - can't wait for polished versions....

Lee

Rastar · Jan 8, 2003, 09:26 AM

Tried it...It's fast, compact and neat. I like it.

swiz · Jan 8, 2003, 09:29 AM

How funny that this threadwas just posted, I was just about to start one

.

Heres mine:

Click here for the fullsize version:
http://swizcore.com/images/SSChosenSafari.jpg

It is Safari with some new mods I did for SSChosenOS yesterday.

Bombia · Jan 8, 2003, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by swiz:
How funny that this threadwas just posted, I was just about to start one .

Heres mine:

Click here for the fullsize version:
http://swizcore.com/images/SSChosenSafari.jpg

It is Safari with some new mods I did for SSChosenOS yesterday.

ChosenOS looking very nice!!! Thanks

stew · Jan 8, 2003, 10:26 AM

Removing the metal look was the very first thing I did. Now I'm thinking about a NetPositive (BeOS' native browser) inspired button set.

beni · Jan 8, 2003, 04:48 PM

Hey, thats funny, allmost scary

, I posted this on the macaddict board just a few hours ago:

How did you manage to fix the buttons, any chance you could mail me the .nib bendik@infofab.no
Thanks

CyberGreg · Jan 8, 2003, 05:09 PM

I'm using the "demetalized" version now, but it does need new buttons.

Brushed:

Clean:

Mediaman_12 · 06:03 PM

Originally posted by wreks:
oh well it's a beta and there are some things we can fix ourselves:
Clipped image

That looks loads better. I tried altering the .nib in Interface builder, but I couldn't get the 'toolbar' (which it isn't) re-spaced correctly. any chance of posting the mod (icon tif's & altered .nib's If you are worried abut redistributing the entire app)

CyberGreg · Jan 8, 2003, 07:57 PM

Update

I've been using and hacking it.... I like it!

Some Safari alterations... I've got an updated, color version!

Basically I just renamed the pressed and um "not-pressed" tif files.

Here's the link to remove the brushed:
http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/metallifizer/

chezpaul · Jan 8, 2003, 08:14 PM

Damn, glad the forum is back up.

I do like the brushed look. but white looks nice too. I like the browser but can't help using chimera with the Windows XP look and Max's XP OS theme... ;-)

How the heck can U stop Safari from underlining the links in a page. It stresses me out and I can't use it for that... ;-)

wreks · 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Mediaman_12:
That looks loads better. I tried altering the .nib in Interface builder, but I couldn't get the 'toolbar' (which it isn't) re-spaced correctly. any chance of posting the mod (icon tif's & altered .nib's If you are worried abut redistributing the entire app)

Just resize the buttons and nudge them around in photoshop until it looks right.

I noticed the alignment is all messed up on my first post, this looks better.

and hey this was kinda fun. (props to dazzla)

course I haven't done the other buttons yet.. it's messed up that they didn't use a "real" toolbar. The buttons are an odd size and that's probably why you have to edit 3 states for a complete change...

Trekkie · Jan 8, 2003, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by chezpaul:
How the heck can U stop Safari from underlining the links in a page. It stresses me out and I can't use it for that... ;-)

Edit the html4.css file in the Safari bundle. It's so nice getting rid of those damned dotted lines too.

Liquidity X · Jan 8, 2003, 10:21 PM

Yah I relased a graphite version yesterday, and any one use Chimericon? well guess what, Safaricon is in the works and coming very soon

Mac Guru · Jan 8, 2003, 11:03 PM

and renders pages the way they were meant to be.

That's laughable, 13 of my most frequented websites look like absolute trash in Safari. I sent in all 13 as bug reports.

Other than that I'm 100% happy with it as a beta for Apple.

Mac Guru

solitere · Jan 8, 2003, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by Mac Guru:
That's laughable, 13 of my most frequented websites look like absolute trash in Safari. I sent in all 13 as bug reports.
Mac Guru

Can you give some examples...

Gul Banana · Jan 9, 2003, 07:48 AM

A slightly different form of Safari customization: If anybody would like their new windows to open where the new ones were, rather than offset so that, if you use fullscreen browsing they're actually partially off the screen and every single time you open a window you have to drag it up and arrgh

etc...
Then go to http://homepage.mac.com/castiglione/software.html for an APE module that makes turns off window cascading

kovacs · Jan 9, 2003, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Liquidity X:
Yah I relased a graphite version yesterday, and any one use Chimericon? well guess what, Safaricon is in the works and coming very soon

Cool !! I hope it will also allow you to remove the brushed metal on the fly ( I don't like application enhancers ) and will allow you to make the address bar rounded just like the google serach bar, it looks so ugly now.

Brien · Jan 10, 2003, 03:29 AM

These are all nice mods and I can't wait for Safaricon. Any release date yet?

Reinhold · Jan 10, 2003, 11:00 AM

I'm the author of ChimerIcon and as you have read here, SafarIcon will be forthcoming. While I can release the application itself in a couple of days, I won't have time to work on icons. So if you guys have icon sets that you would like to see included in the initial release, please email them to me. Please include a name for the theme and the info you would like to see displayed. Check out ChimerIcon to see how this looks.

NetworkShadow · Jan 11, 2003, 12:06 PM

It would be cool if Max made some BBX Mercury X buttons for it.

I really hate the buttons it comes with.

NetworkShadow · Jan 11, 2003, 03:58 PM

BBX Safari!

Well I didn't want to wait for Max or William to make it, so I made my own from the graphics in the theme. It's not done yet but if it's ok with Max/William I'll make it downloadable.

kovacs · Jan 11, 2003, 04:13 PM

Damn that looks cool, I hope you get a thumbs up from Boozo !

TheIceMan · Jan 11, 2003, 06:47 PM

Originally posted by kovacs:
Damn that looks cool, I hope you get a thumbs up from Boozo !

NetworkShadow got

from BOTH Max and Billy Bart already. It's such a clean and simple design. I love BBX Mercury X.

Mediaman_12 · 07:18 PM

Will all this be possible with Safaricon?

'textured' turned off, icons made bigger & respaced, Omniweb Icons (not for distribution as a safari set). I didn't put the rounded address bar in because it fouls up on square faveicons (like the one on this board).
Has anybody got a 'bug' icon that would match this?

I Haave created a bug doing this. The bookmarks window briefly appears when I first launch the app & genarate a new window. It's also at a different size and position.
Any body got a clue what I have inadvertently done?

Can CyberGreg please crop the length of his image. It realy messes up the formating of this thread & dosent show any additional info.

P.S. this shot also shows up the old widget's bug in the ChosenOS theme. The 'ghost' of the close widget appears behind the others in non-active windows.

NetworkShadow · Jan 11, 2003, 07:37 PM

hehe ya, I'm going to have it up for download once I'm done with it.

swiz · Jan 12, 2003, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by Mediaman_12:
P.S. this shot also shows up the old widget's bug in the ChosenOS theme. The 'ghost' of the close widget appears behind the others in non-active windows.

Yeah, Im still trying to track this one down. Its crazy, it only happens in Cocoa apps. I haven't looked into it too hard yet but Im aiming for an early tomorrow solution.

undotwa · Jan 12, 2003, 03:04 AM

Wow those look so cool.

However I'm staying with the default look - I dig brushed metal and aqua combinations

One problem with brushed metal though - sheets look really ugly with brushed metal (stripes don't go).

Mediaman_12 · Jan 12, 2003, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by undotwa:
Wow those look so cool.

However I'm staying with the default look - I dig brushed metal and aqua combinations

One problem with brushed metal though - sheets look really ugly with brushed metal (stripes don't go).

I don't get this at all. On normal apps the 'sheat' slides out from under the 'title bar', but on a textured app it just slides out from nowhere, with the wrong apparance. Yet another reason why the 'Textured option' neads more work.

wreks · 10:53 PM

in case anyone is interested...

you can get it here.

Feel free to make any changes. I only did the buttons shown, so if you turn on the others they may look out of place.

TheIceMan · Jan 15, 2003, 02:20 AM

wreks: Sweet and clean.

babynino · Jan 15, 2003, 03:11 AM

@ wrecks

that is a cool skin for Safari. where can i get it!? gimme! gimme!

percival · Jan 15, 2003, 12:00 PM

Resexcellence now has a Safari Page for customization, and one new navigation button set for download. It would be nice if those with new icon sets would send them to Resexcellence that way we could all check them out without having to search through all the posts.

http://www.resexcellence.com
check it out here

kovacs · Jan 15, 2003, 12:11 PM

You can download a nice new button set for safari from resexcellence:

Ilja · Jan 15, 2003, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by wreks:
in case anyone is interested...

I see tabs

*ducks*

SwarmyCurve · Jan 15, 2003, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by wreks:
in case anyone is interested...

in case!?

Where can I download that makeover for Safari?

wreks · 01:20 AM

...

fireside · Jan 18, 2003, 06:38 PM

i like video games so i made this toolbar.

wreks · 10:52 PM

consolidated to above

zachs · Jan 20, 2003, 06:40 PM

Here's my Faux Fur Theme:
Feel free to make any changes as well.

Dale Sorel · Jan 20, 2003, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by kovacs:
You can download a nice new button set for safari from resexcellence:

I just put these buttons on my Safari, very nice!

I also changed the blue url status bar to a softer, more toned down color

Get'em both here: http://www.ResExcellence.com/user_safari.shtml

phillryu · Jan 21, 2003, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by wreks:
Just resize the buttons and nudge them around in photoshop until it looks right.

I noticed the alignment is all messed up on my first post, this looks better.

and hey this was kinda fun. (props to dazzla)

course I haven't done the other buttons yet.. it's messed up that they didn't use a "real" toolbar. The buttons are an odd size and that's probably why you have to edit 3 states for a complete change...

Wow, are you planning on releasing that XP safari theme wreks? And is that a mac os x windows xp theme there? It looks better than Mac OS XP!

K++ · Jan 25, 2003, 04:01 PM

Personally I don;t understand how everyone can make such a fuss out of the default look of Safari when it look sbetter than every mod in this thread.

The Chimera rip-off's buttons are odd placed and the pinstripes are wrong. Th epinstrpies seem ALOT more pronounced than usual.

The BBX is just ugly, but I never like any theme before Chosen OSX, so you can see why I don't like ANY of the themes in this thread. Even the Chosen OSX doesn't look right without its textured windows theme.

Personally I think only Choesen OSX is an improvement on the looks of Brushed Metal. I must give swz credit for making a gorgeous variant for textured windows. That said, rather than trying to make Safari look like other browsers why not just make a completely new theme for it?

P.S. The XP theme is the ugliest of them all, the colors are much brighter than the actual thing, and its amazing you made XP look worse than usual.

honz · Jan 25, 2003, 04:42 PM

I don't know if it's just because I'm a new mac user (maybe the brushed apps are still new for me) but I love the brushed look and IMHO the default look is the best I have seen compared to the ones on show here. Maybe with the exception of chosen. chosen looks great except for the untextured window as K++ pointed out.

But I must say....great customization skills shown by everyone here!!! =]

Gatorzx2 · Jan 25, 2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by honz:
I don't know if it's just because I'm a new mac user (maybe the brushed apps are still new for me) but I love the brushed look and IMHO the default look is the best I have seen compared to the ones on show here. Maybe with the exception of chosen. chosen looks great except for the untextured window as K++ pointed out.

But I must say....great customization skills shown by everyone here!!! =]

Yea, I like Safari's default button icons the best too. As for brushed metal, the thing I don't care for is the center highlight. If it was flat, like Max's Brushed theme, I wouldn't mind it.

wreks · Jan 25, 2003, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by K++:
Personally I don;t understand how everyone can make such a fuss out of the default look of Safari when it look sbetter than every mod in this thread.

thanks man you make it all worthwhile.

seriously though I find Safari's default buttons big and ugly. I also don't like the blue highlights in the url status bar and the default fav icon. And the brushed appearance seems off for a web browser since it isn't trying to mimic a real world device like itunes, quicktime player, imovie, etc.. plus with the aqua scrolls, popups, buttons, menubar, et al, it seems a little mishmassed. anyway to each their own. I've been using my grey buttons for awhile and I like them. If you want to check them out they even work with brushed turned on.

appreciate your interest be it positive or not.