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CarbonG4 · Apr 2, 2003, 06:51 PM

i suppose i'm wasting my time because i don't believe it's possible but is there any way to fake Menu Item Select caps?

going for this:

but get this (obviously since it's a fill):

any tricks that can be played similar to having an image as the background of the Menu body fill?

thanks for your time
//carbon

smeger · Apr 2, 2003, 07:18 PM

Hey, this'll give me something to test my knowledge of the 'layo' resource on. Whee! I'll post back if I figure something out.

Brien · Apr 2, 2003, 07:19 PM

Sorry, dude. It could be done if all menus were the same lenght, but since they arent, it will tile the pxm horizontally. In other words, no, you can't do that.

fireside · Apr 2, 2003, 07:31 PM

that looks cool carbon. i hope there is some way to impliment it

CarbonG4 · Apr 2, 2003, 11:32 PM

well i can fake a left menu cap, but it's not possible to do a right menu cap unless it can be modded in the layo as smeger mentioned.

this is how it looks w/ the left cap:

//carbon

edit: also note the 1-pixel horizontal transparent line between the Menu button and the body of the actual menu itself. This is not intentional and seems to just be something the system does itself ontop of my resource images.

smeger · Apr 3, 2003, 05:04 AM

Wow, that was a pain! Here's what I've got:

The selected root menu text has left, top & right caps. The drop-down portion of the menu is using a very large pxm# that stretches all the way across the menu (or for 300 pixels, anyway), and tiles vertically. Selected dropdown menu items have a left cap and a fill that stretches across the selected text.

The small grey line between the root menu bar and the dropdown menu is placed automatically by the system, meaning I couldn't get rid of it.

That took me six fricken' hours!

fireside · Apr 3, 2003, 07:34 AM

holy crap smeger now THATS dedication!

invisibleX · Apr 3, 2003, 08:26 AM

Yikes, smeger thats awesome.

Tell me that one day we'll be able to do this in themepark. Please

bOOzo · Apr 3, 2003, 08:37 AM

Smeger - How did you do this?? What else can be done with the layo?

chris v · Apr 3, 2003, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by smeger:
Wow, that was a pain! Here's what I've got:

That took me six fricken' hours!

Well, it was fricken' worth it! That is absolutely awesome. I bow down in humbled awe.

CV

wagmedia · Apr 3, 2003, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by smeger:
Wow, that was a pain! Here's what I've got:

The selected root menu text has left, top & right caps. The drop-down portion of the menu is using a very large pxm# that stretches all the way across the menu (or for 300 pixels, anyway), and tiles vertically. Selected dropdown menu items have a left cap and a fill that stretches across the selected text.

The small grey line between the root menu bar and the dropdown menu is placed automatically by the system, meaning I couldn't get rid of it.

That took me six fricken' hours!

Dang dude, Meteora is starting to look pretty bad-ass.

Fallout · Apr 3, 2003, 01:53 PM

*unF* Those menus are badass. Awesome work.

I can't wait for Meteora to be released. It's without question one of the slickest themes I've ever seen, and that's saying a lot.

CarbonG4 · Apr 3, 2003, 02:41 PM

You're the man Smeger!! Thanks for figuring this out. So will I just need to start Meteora over on a Layo-modded Extras.rsrc file?

Thanks again
//Carbon

NetworkShadow · Apr 3, 2003, 03:26 PM

Looks cool, I'd be interested in seeing a few different color variations too.

The menus are great!

smeger · Apr 3, 2003, 04:35 PM

Carbon, you can just paste the resources I changed into your existing Extras.rsrc.

Unfortunately, this technique has lots of limitations. First, Cocoa ignores the 'layo'. The only reason that menubars work is because all apps use a non-bordered Carbon window for the menubar. So, basically, you can only mod menubars using this technique.

You can't change the menubar height. Also, dropdown menus are hardcoded to take their fill from pxm# 2061, which is why I had to use the "large image" trick. So, it's not a super-useful technique.

The way I did this, there are a few new pxm# resources that are used to define the various sidecaps. You'll be able to access 'em from ThemePark 1.0.

Just fer phun, here are a few things I did by mistake while working on this:

Floating Menus

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"Embossed" Menus

OwlBoy · Apr 3, 2003, 05:00 PM

Thats some awsome stuff! and its just the menu item highlight

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-Owl