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Fluid · Jul 11, 2003, 06:06 PM

It seems Pixadex is coming real soon just check this out.

From IconFactory.com

New Goodies Soon! (7.7.03 )- Just a quick note to let everyone know that if all goes according to plan we should have some fun stuff heading your way in the near future. Stay tuned people!

Pixadex may be?

http://www.iconfactory.com/Preview.asp?typ...pe=show&id=155#

Right Side, download Pixadex container!?!?!

Candy Bar 1.5.3 notes

� Added improved integration with Pixadex

Refreshed included iContainers:

� Connect icon added
� Additional Pixadex support

Info about Pixadex:

Our Next Big Thing (5.20.03) - Here at the Iconfactory, we like to keep the bigger projects under wraps until they're 100% ready - we think it's more exciting that way! However, we've decided to give in to the many requests we've been receiving and give everyone a quick peek at our next major software product. We won't go into the specifics just yet, but we'd like you to know that we're actually very close to releasing the fantastic new utility that Aqua icon enthusiasts have been asking for!

In a name: Pixadex. The Iconfactory has once again teamed up with the talented people at Panic to bring you a program that does for icons what iPhoto did for images, plus more! We've provided a screenshot here to whet your GUI appetites

The Iconfactory and Panic have been working hard on Pixadex for months, crafting a powerful feature set and integrating it tightly into our existing product line. It's quite close to completion, but we believe in taking the time to deliver the professional quality and polish you deserve so we ask that you please be patient just a little longer (we're *not* seeking beta testers at this time, but thanks just the same!).

Expect Pixadex to change the way you download and organize icons in Mac OS X. Expect it to offer some incredible, time-saving features. Expect it to have a clean, easy-to-use interface. And, if all goes well, expect it in about a month. Rants? Raves? General musings? Send 'em along, we'd love to hear from you.

Screen: http://www.iconfactory.com/pixadex/pixadex_0519.jpg

SwarmyCurve · Jul 11, 2003, 06:32 PM

It sure seems good at what it is for... but do we really need an iPhoto-like organizer for icons?

I usually just apply them with CandyBar and thats that.

MindFad · Jul 11, 2003, 06:35 PM

*Cough, hack, cough*

phillryu · Jul 11, 2003, 09:19 PM

http://www.iconfactory.com/px_home.asp

Fluid · Jul 11, 2003, 10:38 PM

Dang, download link doesn't work.

digitaljames · Jul 11, 2003, 11:00 PM

Take off the .bin at the end of the url.....

Originally posted by Fluid:
Dang, download link doesn't work.

ambush · Jul 11, 2003, 11:18 PM

Woooooo hot competition from Panic/Iconfactory, ChickenByte

Hmm. Talk about useless ware

my 2 cents

fireside · Jul 11, 2003, 11:58 PM

how nice. now you can have a thousand different download options for your iconset. folder, icontainter, pixidex icontainer, blah, blah blah. why dont they just make it so pixidex reads regular icontainers so you dont have a trillion icontainers of the same iconset laying around on your hd?

SwarmyCurve · Jul 12, 2003, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by fireside:
how nice. now you can have a thousand different download options for your iconset. folder, icontainter, pixidex icontainer, blah, blah blah. why dont they just make it so pixidex reads regular icontainers so you dont have a trillion icontainers of the same iconset laying around on your hd?

That would make ... far too much sense. Instead the artists must toil away with all these formats.

I still don't get why one would feel the need to browse icons with such complexity... but it seems like a great solution if you did need to.

Adam Betts · Jul 12, 2003, 08:28 AM

$20? For an icon browser? Silly. $12.95 make more sense.

iContainer idea blow though. It's not possible to open the file and take out an icon. So Windows-ish.

unlinear · Jul 12, 2003, 09:27 AM

i took that demo version for a spin and i guess i was expecting more.

and less.

more features...
easier way of applying imported candybar themes back through candbybar. i had to look at the help file to find out how its done -- haven't even tried it since it was easier just to go to the .iContainer file in my (handmade, not pixadexed) Icons folder and apply it straight.

adding folders, dragging files straight onto a library, etc, are all slightly unPanic-y; they behave slightly different than what i'm used to.

less:
the price. $12.95 was a nice price for CandyBar, $24.95 is a nice price for Transmit. At this point, I don't think Pix deserves the spot inbetween those two when it comes to price-- so far it's less useful than CB.

I guess I'll have to give the ChickenByte thing a go to.. did once, but couldn't care for the GUI -- now I'm starting to wonder if it shouldn't be my first pick and that Pixadex is the first Panic release in a year that I haven't purchased.

ambush · Jul 12, 2003, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by unlinear:
i took that demo version for a spin and i guess i was expecting more.

and less.

more features...
easier way of applying imported candybar themes back through candbybar. i had to look at the help file to find out how its done -- haven't even tried it since it was easier just to go to the .iContainer file in my (handmade, not pixadexed) Icons folder and apply it straight.

adding folders, dragging files straight onto a library, etc, are all slightly unPanic-y; they behave slightly different than what i'm used to.

less:
the price. $12.95 was a nice price for CandyBar, $24.95 is a nice price for Transmit. At this point, I don't think Pix deserves the spot inbetween those two when it comes to price-- so far it's less useful than CB.

I guess I'll have to give the ChickenByte thing a go to.. did once, but couldn't care for the GUI -- now I'm starting to wonder if it shouldn't be my first pick and that Pixadex is the first Panic release in a year that I haven't purchased.

Unless, of course, you can live without an icon organizer, like 99.9999999999999999% of Mac Users

unlinear · Jul 12, 2003, 12:21 PM

Ambush, no need to be a wise-ass all the time.

You might not need one.. I'm not sure if i need one.. but let people make up their own mind, okay?

ambush · 02:22 PM

Originally posted by unlinear:
but let people make up their own mind, okay?

I'm just "my 2 cents"-ing here.

What's soooo tough to understand?

ambush · Jul 12, 2003, 03:44 PM

Actually, I might try it out for free. I mean the finder's icon switching is sooooooo broken, and Pix seems to help it <http://www.iconfactory.com/graphics/.../PixadexQT.mov>

So yeah I think I'll use it and buy it, unless of course the new Finder fixes the bug.

unlinear · Jul 12, 2003, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
I'm just "my 2 cents"-ing here.

What's soooo tough to understand?

your comments tend to have a 15-year-old-wisecrack feel to them.

so maybe it's tough to understand how you can appear to be a capable software developer in some ways yet i have a hard time ever seeing anything closer to 16- or 17-yearold influences in your posts.

i'd say that 90% of the posts you've made that i came across were written in this style.

Zimphire · Jul 12, 2003, 05:16 PM

OS X comes with a icon browser. It's called the Finder.

mishap · Jul 12, 2003, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
OS X comes with a icon browser. It's called the Finder.

nice! this works beautifully...

ambush · Jul 12, 2003, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by unlinear:
your comments tend to have a 15-year-old-wisecrack feel to them.

so maybe it's tough to understand how you can appear to be a capable software developer in some ways yet i have a hard time ever seeing anything closer to 16- or 17-yearold influences in your posts.

i'd say that 90% of the posts you've made that i came across were written in this style.

Care to be more accurate? What comment exactly? I think I'm not the only here that thinks that this kind of app is useless - especially when it costs more than 12 bucks.

I'm here to say what I think, and I do it.

I won't go like "AH THANK GOD I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS APP ALL MY LIFE".

Give me a break.

P.S. I'm sorry to offend you, but I got an idea that could solve the problem. When you see a post written by me, skip it and don't read it.

fireside · Jul 12, 2003, 07:46 PM

this makes ZERO sense at all. there is a pixidex icontainer for pixidex, but regular icontainers work just fine. why the hell is there a need for a new icontainer format. WHY. ANSWER ME GOD.

ambush · Jul 12, 2003, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
this makes ZERO sense at all. there is a pixidex icontainer for pixidex, but regular icontainers work just fine. why the hell is there a need for a new icontainer format. WHY. ANSWER ME GOD.

My hypothesis is that "normal" iContainers are much like themes (like they say the app what file to replace with what file) and the pixadex iContainers are just.... a weird way to.... contain icons?

unlinear · Jul 12, 2003, 10:26 PM

a quick read of the site/app docs/help docs reveals...

a pixadex icontainer is a subset of the candybar icontainer...

basically the icontainer format stores the icons, but a candybar icontainer has flags for each icon specifying which candybar location they should fill.

pixadex icontainers are icontainers without these flags and would generally contain the other 10,000 of icons you might or might not have that dont fall inside the 'candybar' setup.

catsank · Jul 13, 2003, 06:37 AM

In those spare/rare moments of the day - which I have given the name 'Kripple' or krippling-time. Spent maybe downloading itunes music covers ( no App is 100% or yet to be made that differentiate between crap and gorgeous artwork.) or just messing around with useless GUI enhancing utilities.
Pixadex sits neatly into this krippling category, after spending a little bit of kripple on it, I've come to the conclusion that I like it.( I pulled my favs together - only about 200 - well under the legal limit before having to pay) but still coughed up the $13.95. ( already an 'icon dropper' user from the grand old days -so $5 off.) It enables me to view and lug my spiffy icon collection around in style - Iconbox and Pixadex both use the 'cocoa frameworks' and so the look and feature-set of both are almost identical and like all krippling GUI tools it's a matter of taste deciding between the two or maybe just an aversion to iconbox's over-use of the heart icon.Excellent to have come across this topic in this forum as it's not officially released yet and I would have not found this precious krippler - so cheers on the heads-up.

ambush · Jul 13, 2003, 08:43 AM

I'm just wondering how you guys could test this app, since it has not been officially released yet...

unlinear · Jul 13, 2003, 08:46 AM

Ambush,

Fluid said: Dang,downloadlink doesn'twork.
DigitalJames said: Take off the .bin at the end of the url.....

so copy the url of the download to your clipboard, paste it, take off .bin at the end, and there you go.

quite liking the safari icons they're including.

ambush · Jul 13, 2003, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by unlinear:
Ambush,

Fluid said: Dang,downloadlink doesn'twork.
DigitalJames said: Take off the .bin at the end of the url.....

so copy the url of the download to your clipboard, paste it, take off .bin at the end, and there you go.

quite liking the safari icons they're including.

http://www.iconfactory.com/software/Pixadex_1.0.dmg

404

unlinear · Jul 13, 2003, 01:48 PM

they probably pulled it.

Adam Betts · Jul 13, 2003, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by unlinear:
they probably pulled it.

I'm sure around 100 people have it already

Zimphire · Jul 13, 2003, 07:53 PM

I think icons had their OWN format. I see this as a way to make people download the app. You know, make a file format that requires a app to use.

I think its overdoing something that is already simple enough.

Dace · Jul 13, 2003, 08:02 PM

I personally like Pixadex, it nicely organizes all my icons and easily sends them over to Candybar. But I do think the $24 US might be too high...for that price I'd rather store my icons in folders and use the finder to sort through them.

Adam Betts · 01:38 AM

nvm

iFix Rene · Jul 15, 2003, 07:15 AM

(as posted by me on VT)

Hi there,

my main concern with this application is the endless piles of folders it makes
in ~/Library/ApplicationSupport/Pixadex/
after adding 171 icons to Pixadex this folder is already 6.7 mb wich is the same
size as the icons I imported. It seems to copy the icons from original location
to this folder in a very iPhoto like and undesirable manner imo
(an icon called 'Applications' ends up as 'Applications (Alt 1)-79841174.857764')
my entire 500 MB OSX icon collection wich sits at ~/Documents/Icons/ would thus
be copied to this ~/Library/ApplicationSupport/Pixadex/ and this folder will also be
500 mb coz it copies the icons there

I don't know how IconBox handles this

I just want it to make a small reference file to the original icon and not double
the space the original ones occupy please!

Also drag and drop of folders of icons isnt supported

I hope these things will be fixed in a later release

catsank · Jul 15, 2003, 09:04 AM

Very good point you made at VT - Mr. iFix Rene.

In real world terms this means I have 3 copies
of each icon hogging disk space.The original,
an icontained box backup and the one Pixadex uses in the app-support folder, mmm...

I don't use iPhoto, but when I first started using iTunes I suddenly had double the amount of mp3's sitting on my hard drive - doh!

I suppose iconfactory/panic would say at least you have a back-up of your icons - even if they are all called 'Internet-79702781.150974' etc...

keston · Jul 15, 2003, 10:34 AM

I think the point is that you have the icons in pixadex and NOT have the originals lying around taking up space. Eg. You import into pixadex then delete the uncompressed/originals. Meant to replace having 20 folders or files of icons sets lying around on your hd.

It also may already do this, but it would be great/even-better if these iContainers used compression. Do they?

ambush · Jul 15, 2003, 11:48 AM

I'm a bit pissed because those iContainers are becoming more and more standard and it's still a closed proprietary format.

iFix Rene · 06:29 PM

i still think it should only make a reference
basically like iTunes does...

all my music (30 Gb) sits on an external drive
and in the ~/Music/iTunes folder is the'iTunes Music Library.xml' wich is only 1.2 MB and
displays all my music in iTunes.

this format would be much better imo

and i dont really want it to convert all my
icons into a folder inside app support with
names like Burn-79841028.877263
the finder column previewe also doesnt
work on them

SwarmyCurve · Jul 15, 2003, 04:58 PM

Ugh, I didn't know it just makes copies of the icons into a new location! It takes a little while to start up, so I thought it was scanning around the disk for icons based on a references file.

There are now so many icon apps and utilities... and almost all of them are making a very simple thing very complicated.

As I said before, isn't the whole icon procedure: Get the icon, switch something to the icon, and then enjoy?

The only plus going for it are the exclusive Safari icons from icon wizard Dave Brasgalla.

iFix Rene · Jul 15, 2003, 06:33 PM

well, if you have loads of icons it can be handy
to have them organized in one application.

but it should just make a reference to where
the original icon sits imo not this messy way

SwarmyCurve · Jul 15, 2003, 06:46 PM

Why in the world they would copy iPhoto for its organization system is beyond me. iPhoto must be one of the very worst choices they could have made for a model.

iFix Rene · Jul 16, 2003, 05:19 AM

yes, I agree totally

what a mess! in the app support folder
are 15 folders which each have 15 folders in
them where your icons are scattered into

I see no logic in ... the first 15 folders in the
first folder are empty, then the five last folders
of the second contains some icons, the first
6 of the third etc

zazou · Jul 17, 2003, 06:50 PM

The import feature is also something close to useless.

Even when you import them buy 'scanning sub folders' it still only created one file.... ALL.

The import should create 'sets' in the left column and label it as the folders name.

I don't want one massive set... I already had them in folders such as SnowE.2, Industech, etc. Now I gotta re-categorize 2000+ icons...?

No Thanks!

iFix Rene · Jul 17, 2003, 07:50 PM

yup, totally agree

and while its possible to add folders with subfolders by using the menu,
drag and drop to add folders with subfolders still creates only 1 icon

pixadex people, I hope you are on this
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