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bOOzo · Oct 23, 2003, 01:21 PM

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Stuphalina · Oct 23, 2003, 01:51 PM

Nice, thank you!

I won't bug you about milk...

d4nth3m4n · Oct 23, 2003, 01:52 PM

thank you. aqua has beeen getting to me lately. this will resolve most of the issues i had with that theme. keep up the good work!

thanks again.
Dan.

::maroma:: · Oct 23, 2003, 01:55 PM

Yay! Long live SmoothStripes!

Thanks Max!

Cerbero · 02:53 PM

Yay! Thanks a lot. Just what Panther needed

Edit: Hmm. I surprise myself.. I had to put the striped resources back in there.. I actually like them in the Panther aqua. Weird..

Many of the Aqua elements in it are awful though, so this theme was a saviour indeed

swiz · Oct 23, 2003, 03:01 PM

Max is this pretty much the same as Aqua Extreme now? Thats my fave and this new Smoothstripes looks so nice and reminds me of that AE look.

Kujo · Oct 23, 2003, 03:03 PM

did i miss the blue widgets? how do i get them in?

valdur · Oct 23, 2003, 03:09 PM

hey max..is it even possible to edit some of the files in the extras resources...i need my transparent menus...and small menu arrows...can i use themepark at all at this stage?...

bOOzo · Oct 23, 2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by swiz:
Max is this pretty much the same as Aqua Extreme now? Thats my fave and this new Smoothstripes looks so nice and reminds me of that AE look.

Yeah, pretty much the same. But I will update AE too, keeping the flat inactive titlebar. But that will be later on.

did i miss the blue widgets? how do i get them in?

Customize the installation before you hit install and choose either the Blue or Gloss Blue install option. Also uncheck the Traffic alternative. I suppose if you would check multiple Extras.rsrc, the last on the list will be the on that is actually used.

The same goes for iFix. If you customize the installation you canuse the Blue titlebar buttons

bOOzo · Oct 23, 2003, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by valdur:
hey max..is it even possible to edit some of the files in the extras resources...i need my transparent menus...and small menu arrows...can i use themepark at all at this stage?...

No, you can't edit the Extras.rsrc while it's in the pkg, as far as I know. You can however use the Root account and edit it, but it's nothing I recommend.

d4nth3m4n · Oct 23, 2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
No, you can't edit the Extras.rsrc while it's in the pkg, as far as I know. You can however use the Root account and edit it, but it's nothing I recommend.

check me on this. i think you can just go to the extras.rsrc and drag it to the desktop. since youre not logged into root (id imagine anyway) it will copy the file as opposed to moving it.

great work bOOzo, as always!

Dan.

kovacs · Oct 23, 2003, 03:36 PM

Thanks max, the theme and the new iFix are great.

PS: the installer only works when your apps are located in the applications folder and not in a sub-folder...

valdur · Oct 23, 2003, 03:52 PM

No, you can't edit the Extras.rsrc while it's in the pkg, as far as I know. You can however use the Root account and edit it, but it's nothing I recommend.

where exactly is the Extras.rsrc??

NetworkShadow · Oct 23, 2003, 06:12 PM

Cool the first official Panther theme.

gdiddy · Oct 23, 2003, 09:12 PM

Thanks Max!

Those stripes were beginning to get to me....

NetworkShadow · Oct 23, 2003, 10:08 PM

So opting to do packages installers now over .dlta files and theme changers?

Sage · Oct 23, 2003, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
So opting to do packages installers now over .dlta files and theme changers?

From Max's website:

"There is currently no theme changer that works well with Panther, so I decided to distribute this update as a package."

NetworkShadow · Oct 24, 2003, 12:26 AM

Wonder if it will catch on?

Lord Sith · Oct 24, 2003, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
Wonder if it will catch on?

Hope so.

It's native.

Phoenix1701 · Oct 24, 2003, 03:07 AM

I, too, decided that the new subtle stripes were worth keeping, but I salvaged just about everything else from SmoothStripes, including the Aqua Finder toolbar items (soo much nicer) and the progress bars (ah, I'd missed those). Max, if you want, I can send you the Extras.rsrc file I created and save you the trouble of merging everything together to make Aqua Extreme 10.3...

In other news, there seems to be a weird copying bug when using ThemePark... bits of system icons, like ThemePark's itself, get grafted into the clipboard somehow when copying elements from ThemePark, which causes much badness when you try to paste it back in. If you're lucky, ThemePark yells at you about it not being the right shape; if you're not, it gets overwritten with blank white space. Yuck. I ended up doing all of this in Sprocket instead (remember Sprocket?)

Cerbero · Oct 24, 2003, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix1701:
I, too, decided that the new subtle stripes were worth keeping, but I salvaged just about everything else from SmoothStripes, including the Aqua Finder toolbar items (soo much nicer) and the progress bars (ah, I'd missed those). Max, if you want, I can send you the Extras.rsrc file I created and save you the trouble of merging everything together to make Aqua Extreme 10.3...
In other news, there seems to be a weird copying bug when using ThemePark... bits of system icons, like ThemePark's itself, get grafted into the clipboard somehow when copying elements from ThemePark, which causes much badness when you try to paste it back in. If you're lucky, ThemePark yells at you about it not being the right shape; if you're not, it gets overwritten with blank white space. Yuck. I ended up doing all of this in Sprocket instead (remember Sprocket?)

I noticed that too. It seems to present itself when resources are 8 pixels or less in width.

bOOzo · Oct 24, 2003, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix1701:
Max, if you want, I can send you the Extras.rsrc file I created and save you the trouble of merging everything together to make Aqua Extreme 10.3...

That's ok, I'm still in 10.2 as my main OS, so I wont have a problem using ThemePark.

unlinear · Oct 24, 2003, 07:32 AM

Is there a way to make the safari toolbar use the same icons as the finder toolbar? i like consistency.

otherwise.

Rawk.
on.

great stuff.

cSurfr · Oct 24, 2003, 08:44 AM

I haven't had a chance to install the new theme yet, but I was wondering exactly we would go about uninstalling it if we so choose ? Is there an uninstaller with it or ?

Thanks,
cs

swiz · Oct 24, 2003, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by Lord Sith:
Hope so.

It's native.

I highly doubt it, when I started theme creation for OSX all of my themes were installed this way. I cant tell you how many emails I got asking me to switch to the theme changing app method.

Cerbero · Oct 24, 2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by cSurfr:
I haven't had a chance to install the new theme yet, but I was wondering exactly we would go about uninstalling it if we so choose ? Is there an uninstaller with it or ?

Thanks,
cs

It comes with an uninstaller package that resets everything to default.

Lord Sith · Oct 24, 2003, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by swiz:
I highly doubt it, when I started theme creation for OSX all of my themes were installed this way. I cant tell you how many emails I got asking me to switch to the theme changing app method.

They ( packages ) scare people. When they see one they know it alters OS X deep within.

Zimphire · Oct 24, 2003, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
Cool the first official Panther theme.

Naw there have been 2 or 3 others out.

smeger · Oct 24, 2003, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Phoenix1701:
In other news, there seems to be a weird copying bug when using ThemePark... bits of system icons, like ThemePark's itself, get grafted into the clipboard somehow when copying elements from ThemePark, which causes much badness when you try to paste it back in. If you're lucky, ThemePark yells at you about it not being the right shape; if you're not, it gets overwritten with blank white space. Yuck. I ended up doing all of this in Sprocket instead (remember Sprocket?)

Warning: Technical Crap Ahead
This is caused by a new bug in Panther's Cocoa imaging classes. When compositing an image onto another image when the destination image is less than 17 pixels wide, the origin of the destination's coordinate system is shifted to the right by half the destination image's width. This means that you get the left half of the source image in the right half of the destination, and junk in the left half. This also occurs when copying images using -[NSBitmapImageRep initWithFocusedRect:]

Fortunately, I managed to figure out a work-around. So, this is fixed in my development version which will be available to the teeming hordes "Real Soon Now�".

This took me three frickin' days to solve, by the way, making me wish that a certain fruit company we all hold near and dear would fix their own damn bugs.

End Technical Crap

Executive Summary: I know about it and it's fixed for next release.

Catfish_Man · Oct 24, 2003, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by smeger:
Warning: Technical Crap Ahead
This is caused by a new bug in Panther's Cocoa imaging classes. When compositing an image onto another image when the destination image is less than 17 pixels wide, the origin of the destination's coordinate system is shifted to the right by half the destination image's width.
End Technical Crap

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Bad Apple! Bad! I guess there aren't many things using <17 pixel wide images or a ton of stuff would be broken.

gdiddy · Oct 24, 2003, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Naw there have been 2 or 3 others out.

Oh, really? Which ones? Sosumi? Links please!

OzarkMtn · Oct 24, 2003, 05:51 PM

I really like the SmoothStripes, how can I add back in the transparent menus & the stripes. I am not really savvy at this stuff.

Thx

bOOzo · Oct 24, 2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by unlinear:
Is there a way to make the safari toolbar use the same icons as the finder toolbar? i like consistency.

I've been thinking about making a Safari skin like that, but it will have to wait.

I really like the SmoothStripes, how can I add back in the transparent menus & the stripes. I am not really savvy at this stuff.

That would require you to active the root account, log in as root. Search for Extras.rsrc, makes a copy of that file and an alias of the directory. Edit the Extras.rsrc with ThemePark, which right now is a hassle, and then save that. Copy the saved Extras.rsrc into the directory and move the old one out.
So I recommend that you wait until themepark is available for Panther and when the themes are distributed for a theme switcher so that it's easier to modify.

ZenmasteR · Oct 24, 2003, 07:06 PM

I ran the package but I didnt see any changes?

the install log doesnt show any errors

my finder.app file is 14.5 odd megs

milhouse · Oct 25, 2003, 12:43 AM

Yeah, Nothing appears to have changed in my install of Panther after running the smoothstripes installer.

bOOzo · Oct 25, 2003, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by milhouse:
Yeah, Nothing appears to have changed in my install of Panther after running the smoothstripes installer.

Hmm ok.. That's odd. It's very possible that I could have messed up something with the package, but it has worked fine on my test computers.. Not sure if I can help out though..

Cerbero · Oct 25, 2003, 06:08 AM

Might be a stupid question, but just to make sure; You did log out and back in again, right?

milhouse · 09:24 AM

I did log out. I reapplied the theme again and rebooted which sort of seemed to work as
I had to apply demetalifizer to actually see the theme. The finder and safari were still metal without it.

Me happy now.

BTW BOOzo,

Thanks for the theme.

chezpaul · Oct 25, 2003, 02:27 PM

I feel all new and funny with Panther..
I'll wait for more people to have good experiences with smooth's instal before I go ahead... My firewire ports are already acting wierd... Argh...

Zimphire · Oct 26, 2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by gdiddy:

Oh, really? Which ones? Sosumi? Links please!

I had a stripeless version of Panther out since the first dev version.

stop being such a tard.

Groovy · Oct 26, 2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
Hmm ok.. That's odd. It's very possible that I could have messed up something with the package, but it has worked fine on my test computers.. Not sure if I can help out though..

same thing here. Nothing changed.

gdiddy · Oct 26, 2003, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

I had a stripeless version of Panther out since the first dev version.

stop being such a tard.

Where is it? Oh, you mean for yourself? I don't think that counts chief.

Please provide a link. I'd love to see it! I'm sure it's brilliant. I'm sure it's every bit as good as SmoothStripes. Heck, knowing how great you are I'm sure it's even better.

Put up or shut up.

Zimphire · 07:55 AM

Originally posted by gdiddy:
Where is it? Oh, you mean for yourself? I don't think that counts chief.

Please provide a link. I'd love to see it! I'm sure it's brilliant. I'm sure it's every bit as good as SmoothStripes. Heck, knowing how great you are I'm sure it's even better.

Put up or shut up.

Why is it you only come out to these forum to berate people?

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

*here is a hint, look at the screenshot archives.

Groovy · Oct 27, 2003, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
Hmm ok.. That's odd. It's very possible that I could have messed up something with the package, but it has worked fine on my test computers.. Not sure if I can help out though..

update:

I had to log in as root to get the package to install correctly.
It just would not swap the files as admin.

I do have one question. Are the menus supposed to be transparent
in the default install? I saw the options for blue and gloss and decided
to go default.

thanks for all your hard work

gdiddy · Oct 27, 2003, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Why is it you only come out to these forum to berate people?

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

*here is a hint, look at the screenshot archives.

Please provide a link to your theme. I'd love to see it. Please! I'm begging here...

Have a great day!

bOOzo · Oct 27, 2003, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by Groovy:
update:

I had to log in as root to get the package to install correctly.
It just would not swap the files as admin.

I do have one question. Are the menus supposed to be transparent
in the default install? I saw the options for blue and gloss and decided
to go default.

thanks for all your hard work

Glad to hear you got it installed! I have the package authorization set to Root, but according to the documentation, an admin password will work with that too. So it's strange..

The Menus are supposed to be transparent. An Opaque version is possible in the next release though.

fisherKing · Oct 27, 2003, 08:53 AM

i promised myself i'd live with panther for awhile before messing around with it.

that was friday...today is monday, and

smoothstripes is awesome, installed without a hitch on my powerbook.

thanx max!

Zimphire · Oct 27, 2003, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by gdiddy:
Please provide a link to your theme. I'd love to see it. Please! I'm begging here...

Have a great day!

http://webpages.charter.net/zimphire/SimplePanther.zip

Been up for months.

Most people who want boozo's redone widgets and the like will probably prefer SmoothStripes. And that is fine.

I want to keep it the same, just without the stripes.

The reason why I never made such a BIG DEAL about it is, ANYONE can hack the stripes out of Panther really easily.

It's really not that big of a change.

I want consistency (Apple's buttons and such) minus the stripes.

I didn't post or make it to berate Max because he is doing a wonderful job.

His redone widgets look great.

But I like Apple's too.

gdiddy · Oct 27, 2003, 10:52 AM

The reason why I never made such a BIG DEAL about it is, ANYONE can hack the stripes out of Panther really easily.[/B]

So do you think this qualifies as a theme or just a tard-ish hack?

I guess what really matters is you made a theme for panther first!

...or did you?

I'd still qualify b00zo's SmoothStripes as the first REAL theme for Panther. Way more than just a hack anyone could have done. Just my opinion. Thanks for the effort though!

Hugs and kisses.

G.

swiz · Oct 27, 2003, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by gdiddy:
So do you think this qualifies as a theme or just a tard-ish hack?

I guess what really matters is you made a theme for panther first!

...or did you?

I'd still qualify b00zo's SmoothStripes as the first REAL theme for Panther. Way more than just a hack anyone could have done. Just my opinion. Thanks for the effort though!

Hugs and kisses.

G.

Good F-ing grief, its just a theme afterall. And any argument about who did what first is totally irrelevant when its regarding a product or service which is free; were it regarding something which is patent-able then the whodidwhatfirst issue is relevant.

Lets leave the "tag your it" games in the PM's.