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smeger · 02:47 AM

Hey Panther Lovers!

Since there's a lot of demand for the forthcoming Jaguar->Panther theme converter, I thought it'd be cool for me to post my progress on it here. I'll update this periodically over the weekend. I'm shooting for a release early this coming week, almost definitely before this Wednesday.

So, forthwith and forsooth, here's where da shiznats at, kool kats:

ThemePark working fully in Panther ... done
Updating infrastructure to handle things like this update ... done
Push buttons ... done
Edit text ... done
Document window inactive state ... done
Utility window inactive state ... done
Round edit text (small) ... done
Round edit text (mini) ... done
Round edit text (large) ... done
Async arrows (large) ... done
Checkboxes (mini) ... done
Radio buttons (mini) ... done
Popup buttons (mini) ... done
Push buttons (mini) ... done
Combo boxes (mini) ... done
Slider (mini) ... done
Figuring out how to update the remaining elements ... in progress
Up/Down arrow control (mini) ... done
Arrow button (mini) ... done
Tabs ... done
Edit text frame ... done
Segment control ... in progress
Group box ...
Toolbar selection well ...
Dial ... done
PPATs ...
Menu dividers ... done
MenuEnhancer compatibility ... in progress
Ability to read DLTA and xscheme files directly ... in progress

Assuming that all of these items are equally weighted, this is currently 75.9% complete. But that equally weighted assumption isn't valid here because what's left is just "more of the same" and I've already figured out how to do most of what needs doing. But, a couple of the remaining categories are pretty huge, like Segment controls, Sliders and Tabs. Blah blah blah...

Anyway, hang tite, you'll see this beastie soon!

d4nth3m4n · 06:47 PM

there was a stupid/ wasted post here. youre not really missing anything not seeing it-dtm

cant wait for this....ooo

Fonzie · Oct 25, 2003, 02:14 PM

Looking good smeger ! Can't wait.

Brien · Oct 27, 2003, 05:04 PM

w00t. Good work as always.

NetworkShadow · Oct 28, 2003, 12:13 AM

smeger · Oct 28, 2003, 02:58 AM

Well, the tabs are done! Only took me a straight 12 hour coding session with one quick 40 minute pizza break...

Here's a screenie of FlagShip running under Panther after having been converted by ThemePark (click for full-size):

A few more hours tomorrow should do the trick, so expect to see this amazingly-tedious-to-produce update ma�ana.

Love,
That Sleepy Guy

bbxstudio · Oct 28, 2003, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by smeger:
Love,
That Sleepy Guy

It must be love - why else would anybody spend countless hours toiling away for no pay just so us interface geeks have the tools we need to do what we do? I think it's time we collectively acknowleged Jason Harris (aka Smeger) as the patron saint of theming in OSX - without him we'd all be using inferior tools and crumping up our systems trying to get old themes to work on new systems. The man's a genius - if anybody is going to crack open the OS to a Kaleidoscopesque degree it will be this man.

So I'd like to say publicly, Thank You Jason Harris for all you've done to date and all you will help make possible as we plow into undiscovered territory in the months and years ahead - the love is mutual. Bravo!

wagmedia · Oct 28, 2003, 08:12 AM

So I'd like to say publicly, Thank You Jason Harris for all you've done to date and all you will help make possible as we plow into undiscovered territory in the months and years ahead - the love is mutual. Bravo! [/B]

I totally agree. Thanks a million Jason.

gdiddy · Oct 28, 2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
IThe man's a genius - if anybody is going to crack open the OS to a Kaleidoscopesque degree it will be this man

Hmmmm. Is someone floating a balloon here?

Ye GODS I hope so!.

Thanks Smeger for making all the beautiful themes that Swiz, BBX and MAX and all the others create possible.

I think I may give this themeing thing another try. Last time I tried (SlickMetal X) I just about pulled all my hair out.

NetworkShadow · Oct 28, 2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
It must be love - why else would anybody spend countless hours toiling away for no pay just so us interface geeks have the tools we need to do what we do? I think it's time we collectively acknowleged Jason Harris (aka Smeger) as the patron saint of theming in OSX - without him we'd all be using inferior tools and crumping up our systems trying to get old themes to work on new systems. The man's a genius - if anybody is going to crack open the OS to a Kaleidoscopesque degree it will be this man.

So I'd like to say publicly, Thank You Jason Harris for all you've done to date and all you will help make possible as we plow into undiscovered territory in the months and years ahead - the love is mutual. Bravo!

You said it BBX!

smeger · Oct 28, 2003, 12:20 PM

Shucks, I feel all warm & fuzzy.

Thanks for the nice words, all'y'all!

I'm tightening up a few loose ends right now. You should be seeing this behemoth today.

For those who like statistics, this update consists of 4066 lines of new code, 5014 lines of new data file, totalling 147,692 new characters 277,514 new characters typed in the past five days by my glad-I-play-drums-or-I'd-have-carpal fingers.

Course, I'm not done coding it yet, so the final total will probably be a bit higher! And, of course, large swathes were copy/paste, but still...

Gawdam.

Mike S. · Oct 28, 2003, 01:05 PM

Thank you Jason.

I don't have the artistic skill to pull of a theme but I appreciate the hard work you've undertaken in providing the tools that let the artists do what they do best so that I may enjoy the end result.

Thanks to everybody in the theme community, you really are a special breed of people. You take on a good deal of burden to turn what your mind's eye sees into something that can be enjoyed by all.

Perhaps more importantly than that you're not doing it for financial gain so much as you want to bring a dream into reality.

Too many things today are done solely for money and I just don't care for that. Yes, people need money to survive but for too many people nothing is worth doing if it doesn't profit them in some way.

Those of you making themes, desktops, icons, programming apps or whatever and giving that work away for people to enjoy; you are true artists and the world is a better place because of you.

Thank you so much for being who you are.

bOOzo · Oct 28, 2003, 01:26 PM

I can only agree with previous posters, it's looking great and thans for doing this, Jason

FB Eye · Oct 28, 2003, 03:55 PM

Everybody gather around for a big collective hug

wagmedia · Oct 28, 2003, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by FB Eye:

Everybody gather around for a big collective hug

Exactly.

codywalton · Oct 29, 2003, 12:40 PM

AH... I can't wait! I need this now!

NetworkShadow · Oct 29, 2003, 12:42 PM

Well the beta's out, it was posted already: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=185460

Kujo · Oct 29, 2003, 12:57 PM

thats themepark, i thought we were waiting for a updated themefur?

codywalton · Oct 29, 2003, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
Well the beta's out, it was posted already: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=185460

From the instructions on that thread it says you have to install a theme on jaguar first, then save it , then convert it, then user it on Panther.

Too much. I'll just wait for the full version, sinc eI don't even have jaguar anymore.

smeger · Oct 29, 2003, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Kujo:
thats themepark, i thought we were waiting for a updated themefur?

Theme Fur wouldn't have worked well for the Jaguar->Panther transition because a lot of widgets have new states within the pxm# resource. So I folded the functionality into ThemePark, where it belongs.

grphxstud · Nov 6, 2003, 03:51 AM

Keep up the awesome work! I would never make themes if it wasnt for ThemePark. I'm so swamped for time these days with full time work, full time school, and full time obstacles.

I was worried about updating FlagShip (as well as my new, unreleased theme) for Panther, but it looks like I can just relax.

Thanks again for you excellent work. I'm really excited.

smeger · Nov 6, 2003, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by grphxstud:
Keep up the awesome work! I would never make themes if it wasnt for ThemePark. I'm so swamped for time these days with full time work, full time school, and full time obstacles.

I was worried about updating FlagShip (as well as my new, unreleased theme) for Panther, but it looks like I can just relax.

Thanks again for you excellent work. I'm really excited.

Well, since FlagShip is the theme I used to test the updater, you're probably in pretty good shape.