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villalobos · Sep 25, 2003, 06:51 PM

Thanks to you and FNC I heard about Al's book, you know the one about the lies and the liars, and decided to read it.
And boy, would have been a shame if I hadn't. Told me everything I suspected about your lying misleading ways.
This book is of course HIGHLY recommended.

Villa

spacefreak · Sep 25, 2003, 08:03 PM

Do you even realize the rabid tone in your posts? You have too much hatred inside you.

MacGorilla · Sep 26, 2003, 04:03 AM

Man, such venom.

villalobos · Sep 26, 2003, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Do you even realize the rabid tone in your posts? You have too much hatred inside you.

Not nearly as much as Mr. 'No-spin' O'Reilly actually. Besides the book was funny, how could it bring hatred into me. No hatred. I told you, I am grateful 'no spin' Bill sued him and got him in the news.

Thank you 'no spin' Bill. Peace.

villa

chris v · Sep 26, 2003, 07:24 AM

Those guys at Fox Legal are marketing geniuses, aren't they?

CV

Zimphire · Sep 26, 2003, 08:49 AM

Al is also a liar. I guess it takes one to know one.

chris v · Sep 26, 2003, 10:32 AM

Al is also a liar. I guess it takes one to know one.

Breaking my Zimphire embargo here to note that, obtusely at least, he just called Bill O'rielly a liar!!

Zim agrees with Al Franken!!!

CV

Zimphire · Sep 26, 2003, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by chris v:
Breaking my Zimphire embargo here to note that, obtusely at least, he just called Bill O'rielly a liar!!

Zim agrees with Al Franken!!!

CV

Actually I was making a ironic statement. But don't let that stop you from projecting anything you want into it.

spacefreak · Sep 26, 2003, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by villalobos:
I am grateful 'no spin' Bill sued him and got him in the news.

And Bill, whose book was released this week, also got his own name in the news.

Had Bill not sued, neither of their names would be in the news. So, please tell me who the genious is. I say it's the man who dramatically boosted the revenues of BOTH books.

chris v · Sep 26, 2003, 10:41 AM

Actually I was making a ironic statement. But don't let that stop you from projecting anything you want into it.

Okay, I won't! Thanks for the words of encouragenment!

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CV

zigzag · 12:05 PM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
And Bill, whose book was released this week, also got his own name in the news.

Had Bill not sued, neither of their names would be in the news. So, please tell me who the genious is. I say it's the man who dramatically boosted the revenues of BOTH books.

So you're saying that (a) O'Reilly pushed the lawsuit in order to increase his public profile even though he already had the No. 1 "news" show in the country, and (b) O'Reilly did so knowing that it would generate huge sales for a book by his nemesis that exposes him as a lying hypocrite, and (c) it's OK for O'Reilly to file frivolous lawsuits for publicity purposes (which is itself proof of his hypocrisy). OK, I'll buy all that "spin" if you'll make a cash donation to my charity - it's called "Save The Starving Children Of Beverly Hills."

Let's face it - O'Reilly thought he could get away with being a bully in the courtroom as well as on his show, and he got spanked. He'll overcome it, but let's call a spade a spade. The fact is that O'Reilly spins just like Franken and everybody else.

thunderous_funker · Sep 26, 2003, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
And Bill, whose book was released this week, also got his own name in the news.

Had Bill not sued, neither of their names would be in the news. So, please tell me who the genious is. I say it's the man who dramatically boosted the revenues of BOTH books.

"I sued them to increase the revenue of BOTH books. Yeeeeeah, that's the the ticket. BOTH books. Yeah...I'm a geeeenius. Yeah, that's it..."

Millennium · Sep 26, 2003, 04:38 PM

They all lie. They all spin. This is the nature of media; not conservative media, not liberal media, but all media.

You cannot avoid spin, no matter what you do. The best you can hope for is to get your news from sources with many different spins, in different directions and degrees, and then think for yourself based on the many viewpoints you've read.

villalobos · Sep 26, 2003, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Al is also a liar. I guess it takes one to know one.

I dont know, Franken pretty much laid facts in his books, and gave sources and references. It seems to me less suspicious than O'Reilly obnoxious attitude in his show (and no i don't have read any of his books, ain't gonna give him money).

villa

MacGorilla · Sep 26, 2003, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by villalobos:
I dont know, Franken pretty much laid facts in his books, and gave sources and references. It seems to me less suspicious than O'Reilly obnoxious attitude in his show (and no i don't have read any of his books, ain't gonna give him money).

villa

You should read The No Spin Zone. It is quite good. Even if you (like me) don't agree with all his opinions you'll find them compelling and well thought out. I read and liked Al Franken's book as well.

villalobos · Sep 26, 2003, 09:04 PM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
You should read The No Spin Zone. It is quite good. Even if you (like me) don't agree with all his opinions you'll find them compelling and well thought out. I read and liked Al Franken's book as well.

I'll need to find somebody who has the book. I am not ready to pay for it (neither did I pay for Franken's book actually).
And actually, for the little bit I saw of his show (I don't get to see FNC at home), ther eis about nothing i agree with O'Reilly.... It's gonna be tough.

villa

einmakom · Sep 26, 2003, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by villalobos:
I'll need to find somebody who has the book. I am not ready to pay for it (neither did I pay for Franken's book actually).
And actually, for the little bit I saw of his show (I don't get to see FNC at home), ther eis about nothing i agree with O'Reilly.... It's gonna be tough.

villa

What, you don't have a university or public library?