[spacefreak]

No FCC Action Vs. Bono Over Naughty Word

No FCC Action Vs. Bono Over Naughty Word

WASHINGTON (Hollywood Reporter) - The Federal Communications Commission decided that U2 singer Bono's utterance of an obscenity during this year's broadcast of the Golden Globe Awards did not constitute a violation of the nation's broadcast indecency rules.

On Monday, the government agency's Enforcement Bureau rejected complaints by the Parents Television Council and others that Bono's use of the phrase "this is really, really f---ing brilliant" failed to meet the test for indecency. The bureau ruled that Bono's indiscretion was so "fleeting and isolated" that it did not run afoul of the rules.

The commission defines indecent speech as language that, in context, depicts or describes sexual or excretory activities or organs in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards. As a threshold matter, the material aired during NBC's Golden Globes telecast doesn't fall into that category, the bureau ruled.

"The word 'f---ing' my be crude and offensive, but, in the context presented here, did not describe sexual or excretory organs or activities," the bureau wrote. "Rather, the performer used the word 'f---ing' as an adjective or expletive to emphasize an exclamation. Indeed, in similar circumstances, we have found that offensive language used as an insult rather than as a description of sexual or excretory activities or organs is not within the scope of the commission's prohibition of indecent program content."

By the explanation provided, this seems to open up to TV networks use of the word "F--king" in broadcasts. What ever happened to the few second delay in broadcasts to silence or bleep out such words?

I don't like the explanation becuase I don't want to see television full of people lobbing "f--king" around everywhere. In combination with "ass' (which is OK for TV these days), we may be close to watching a shows where one person can call someone a "f--king asshole". Is "sh-t" far behind?

Furthermore, if the FCC is cool with the use of the word "f--king", why am I going to such efforts to replace the "uc" with "--" in the "f--king" word here in this "f--king" forum?

[boots]

I can hear Ted Coppel now

(talking with a correspondant) "How f-cking amazing is the view from Bagdad tonight?"

[Spliffdaddy]

Great!

We can finally hear some dialogue in an Osbourne's episode.

[Nicko]

Originally posted by boots:
I can hear Ted Coppel now

(talking with a correspondant) "How f-cking amazing is the view from Bagdad tonight?"

sample weather report:

The weather out there is hot and sh***y, with continued hot and sh***y in the afternoon. Tomorrow a chance of continued crappy weather. A pissy weather front coming down from the north. Basically it's hotter than a snake's ass in a wagon rut.

[macvillage.net]

There are several reasons fo this ruling:

1. It was not used in a sexual connotation.

2. It was not used as an attack, or to offend.

3. It was not done intentionally.


They ruled no harm... because there was no harm. It contained no meaning different from any other word.

It was not used as a stab against someone "your a ****ing idiot"...

Not used sexually "I want to *** you in the ***.".

It was used in a positive sentence.


It's not an endorcement of the word... don't expect to see it become more previlant..

it just means this case didn't have anything worthy of an offense. It was a mere slipup.

Nobody was harmed, there was nothing to be offended about.


This is general symantics. The word, vs. the meaning.

People were offended by the word. Not the meaning, as there was nothing to be offended by in the meaning.

This is like calling a medical students's text book "explicit pornography", for showing a picture of a naked woman... is it demeaning, vulgar, offensive? Or is it for anatomical reference and understanding by a medical student?

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

****ing A!

[Millennium]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Great!

We can finally hear some dialogue in an Osbourne's episode.

See, I always thought the bleeps made it even funnier. It's like the infamous "noodle incident" in Calvin and Hobbes; the user's imagination (not that much is required) is sure to be more outrageous than anything they could actually say.

Plus, in a case like The Osbournes, it helps call attention to just how much these guys actually swear, which is kind of funny in itself.

[chris v]

I'm tired of all this sex on the television. I keep falling off.

CV

[thunderous_funker]

I heard shyt used on ESPN's playmakers show the other day. I simply caught it in passing while channel surfing so I don't know if that is a regular thing. An angry coach used it twice in the space of 10 seconds in some halftime motivational speech scene.

Can anyone confirm it? Am I hearing things? Is this a regular thing on the show?

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
There are several reasons fo this ruling...

Thanks for the recap. You could have saved some time by just copying and pasting the article from my post.

don't expect to see it become more previlant.

Now this was what I was wondering. You don't think that with the explanation (and you're recap), others may be encourages to perform the same "slip-up". I think this is landmark.

One can slip-up at will, and just claim in a televised news conference: "Ooops - I didn't mean it in a sexual nature. I just f-cked up. "

Then a reporters can fire back, "Did you realize you f-cked up at the time?"

So now we have "ass", "f-cking", and if thunderfunk is right, "sh-t " on primetime TV. The FCC should save its money spent on wranglings and enforcement of broadcast content and just say "anything goes".

Under the FCC ruling, how would "F--k You" be analyzed. In terms of being sexually explicit, couldn't one claim that as a straight man, he had no sexual intentions towards his target?

Just want to get my rulings down before the 2004 Presidential debates.

[alphasubzero949]

Originally posted by Nicko:
sample weather report:

The weather out there is hot and sh***y, with continued hot and sh***y in the afternoon. Tomorrow a chance of continued crappy weather. A pissy weather front coming down from the north. Basically it's hotter than a snake's ass in a wagon rut.

Good Morning Vietnam

[bewebste]

Ms. Choksondik: Alright, children, in lieu of the common usage, I'm s'posed to clarify the school's position on the word, "shit."

Stan: Wow! We can say "shit" in school now?!

Kyle: This is ridiculous! Just because they say it on TV it's alright.

Ms. Choksondik: Yes, but only in the figurative noun form or the adjective form

Cartman: [quizzically] Huh?

Ms. Choksondik: You can only use it in the non-literal sense. For instance, [turns and writes on the board] "That's a shitty picture of me." is now fine. Hoever, the literal noun form of [writes] "This is a picture of shit." is still naughty. [crosses out the sentence]

Cartman: I don't get it.

Stan: Me neither.

Ms. Choksondik: The adjective form is now also acceptable. For example: [writes] "The weather outside is shitty." However, the literal adjective is NOT appropriate. For example: [writes] "My bad diarrhea made the inside of the toilet bowl shitty, and I had to clean it with a rag, which then also became shitty." [crosses it out] That's right out!

Timmy: Sshh...sshh...[draws it out] shit. [grins]

Ms. Choksondik: Very good, Timmy.

Butters: [raises his hand] Huh-uh, Ms. Choksondik, eh, can we say it in the expletive? Like, "Oh, shit," or, "shit on a shingle"?

Ms. Choksondik: Yes, that's now fine.

Cartman: Wow, this is gonna be great! A whole new word!

Kyle: [angrily] It's NOT NEW!! I'm gonna look "shit" up in the encyclopedia and PROVE it!!

Cartman: Don't mind Kyle, everyone, he's just got a little sand in his vagina.

Kyle: THERE'S NO SAND IN MY VAGINA!!!

Ms. Choksondik: [pointing] Boys, watch your language! Shit!

_--------------------
[Kindergarten, day]

Mr. Garrison: And so, children, instead of saying "Hand in your papers," I may now say "Hand in your shit." Any questions?

Filmore: What about, "I have to take a shit"?

Mr. Garrison: NO! NO, Filmore! You can say "I have to poop and shit," or "Oh, shit, I have to poop," but NOT "I have to shit." Are we all clear?

Kindergartners: No.

Mr. Garrison: Look, it's all about context. Well, for example, recently, I have come out and admitted that I was a homosexual. I'm gay. That means that now I can say the word, "fag." On television they usually don't allow "fag." But because I'm gay, it's alright. And with the new approval of the word, "shit," that means that finally I am free to say,
Hey, there, shitty shitty fag fag,
Shitty shitty fag fag, how do you do?
Hey, there, shitty shitty fag fag,
Shitty shitty fag fag, how do you do?
[pleased] Oh this is great!

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Thanks for the recap. You could have saved some time by just copying and pasting the article from my post.


Now this was what I was wondering. You don't think that with the explanation (and you're recap), others may be encourages to perform the same "slip-up". I think this is landmark.

One can slip-up at will, and just claim in a televised news conference: "Ooops - I didn't mean it in a sexual nature. I just f-cked up. "

Then a reporters can fire back, "Did you realize you f-cked up at the time?"

So now we have "ass", "f-cking", and if thunderfunk is right, "sh-t " on primetime TV. The FCC should save its money spent on wranglings and enforcement of broadcast content and just say "anything goes".

Under the FCC ruling, how would "F--k You" be analyzed. In terms of being sexually explicit, couldn't one claim that as a straight man, he had no sexual intentions towards his target?

Just want to get my rulings down before the 2004 Presidential debates.

There's a difference. That's why each one is looked at as an individual... rather than just fine.

"F*ck you" would be considered offensive, since the term brings a connotation of agression, and hostility.


This ruling is an unusual situation, because everything lined up. It's good to see that the FCC isn't just dealing out punishment, but looking at each case.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
It's good to see that the FCC isn't just dealing out punishment, but looking at each case.

I'd rather the FCC just ban the word altogether, or allow it unconditionally, and save money.

Instead, we have a nation-wide team spending days, weeks, months determining if one man's "f-ck" is ok, while determining that another man's "f-ck" is not OK.

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
I'd rather the FCC just ban the word altogether, or allow it unconditionally, and save money.

Instead, we have a nation-wide team spending days, weeks, months determining if one man's "f-ck" is ok, while determining that another man's "f-ck" is not OK.

Is biblical "ass" the same as "he is an ass"?

There's lots of messy places. Medical films on Discovery chanel... or just pornography for some 12 year olds to beat off to?

There's lots of gray area.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Is biblical "ass" the same as "he is an ass"?

There's lots of messy places. Medical films on Discovery chanel... or just pornography for some 12 year olds to beat off to?

There's lots of gray area.

So the strategy, if you want to show a graphical sexual scene on NYPD Blue - like the Saved By the Bell guy f--king a prostitute - is to flash words across the bottom of the screen stating "The penis' role in reproduction is to penetrate the female vagina. With each thrusting motion, the inner lining of the vagina stimulates the nerve endings at the tip of the penis....."

[The Mick]

Why the fukc is it the goverment's ******* business what people ******* say on TV anyway? I'm a ******* adult and if I don't want to hear bad ******* language or watch people <bleep>ing, I'll change the ******* channel. Can someone tell the ******* government to stop fukicing legislating what I can and cannot ******* watch on the ******* TV I paid for and the ******* cable service I pay for? It's just another way for lazy ass ******* parents to slack off and rely on the ******* feds to protect their kids' ******* virgin ears instead of taking some ******* responsibility and not let their ******* kids watch those kinds of ******* shows. Go find ******* Osama or ******* Saddam and leave my ******* TV alone, you <bleep>ing <bleep>holes.

[boots]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
So the strategy, if you want to show a graphical sexual scene on NYPD Blue - like the Saved By the Bell guy f--king a prostitute - is to flash words across the bottom of the screen stating "The penis' role in reproduction is to penetrate the female vagina. With each thrusting motion, the inner lining of the vagina stimulates the nerve endings at the tip of the penis....."

Either that or a disclaimer that no animals were hurt in the filming of the scene.

[SOLIDAge]

Grammy awards...2000
Eminem performed with elton John

THREE times they bleeped to early and he said the F word right there on stage...same with the S word afew time...no action taken...not really a surprise, i don't see why our country makes such a huge deal out of it on TV...

[Mohammed Al-Sabah]

Originally posted by bewebste:
Ms. Choksondik: Alright, children, in lieu of the common usage, I'm s'posed to clarify the school's position on the word, "shit."

Stan: Wow! We can say "shit" in school now?!

Kyle: This is ridiculous! Just because they say it on TV it's alright.

Ms. Choksondik: Yes, but only in the figurative noun form or the adjective form

Cartman: [quizzically] Huh?

Ms. Choksondik: You can only use it in the non-literal sense. For instance, [turns and writes on the board] "That's a shitty picture of me." is now fine. Hoever, the literal noun form of [writes] "This is a picture of shit." is still naughty. [crosses out the sentence]

Cartman: I don't get it.

Stan: Me neither.

Ms. Choksondik: The adjective form is now also acceptable. For example: [writes] "The weather outside is shitty." However, the literal adjective is NOT appropriate. For example: [writes] "My bad diarrhea made the inside of the toilet bowl shitty, and I had to clean it with a rag, which then also became shitty." [crosses it out] That's right out!

Timmy: Sshh...sshh...[draws it out] shit. [grins]

Ms. Choksondik: Very good, Timmy.

Butters: [raises his hand] Huh-uh, Ms. Choksondik, eh, can we say it in the expletive? Like, "Oh, shit," or, "shit on a shingle"?

Ms. Choksondik: Yes, that's now fine.

Cartman: Wow, this is gonna be great! A whole new word!

Kyle: [angrily] It's NOT NEW!! I'm gonna look "shit" up in the encyclopedia and PROVE it!!

Cartman: Don't mind Kyle, everyone, he's just got a little sand in his vagina.

Kyle: THERE'S NO SAND IN MY VAGINA!!!

Ms. Choksondik: [pointing] Boys, watch your language! Shit!

_--------------------
[Kindergarten, day]

Mr. Garrison: And so, children, instead of saying "Hand in your papers," I may now say "Hand in your shit." Any questions?

Filmore: What about, "I have to take a shit"?

Mr. Garrison: NO! NO, Filmore! You can say "I have to poop and shit," or "Oh, shit, I have to poop," but NOT "I have to shit." Are we all clear?

Kindergartners: No.

Mr. Garrison: Look, it's all about context. Well, for example, recently, I have come out and admitted that I was a homosexual. I'm gay. That means that now I can say the word, "fag." On television they usually don't allow "fag." But because I'm gay, it's alright. And with the new approval of the word, "shit," that means that finally I am free to say,
Hey, there, shitty shitty fag fag,
Shitty shitty fag fag, how do you do?
Hey, there, shitty shitty fag fag,
Shitty shitty fag fag, how do you do?
[pleased] Oh this is great!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL this is to damn funny thx for this post hahaha

[villalobos]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
No FCC Action Vs. Bono Over Naughty Word


By the explanation provided, this seems to open up to TV networks use of the word "F--king" in broadcasts. What ever happened to the few second delay in broadcasts to silence or bleep out such words?

I don't like the explanation becuase I don't want to see television full of people lobbing "f--king" around everywhere. In combination with "ass' (which is OK for TV these days), we may be close to watching a shows where one person can call someone a "f--king asshole". Is "sh-t" far behind?

Furthermore, if the FCC is cool with the use of the word "f--king", why am I going to such efforts to replace the "uc" with "--" in the "f--king" word here in this "f--king" forum?

So why exactly has there to be an institution which tells you what you can say and what you can't say on television? Sounds like censorship to me.

villa

[AutoJC]

Originally posted by spacefreak:
No FCC Action Vs. Bono Over Naughty Word


By the explanation provided, this seems to open up to TV networks use of the word "F--king" in broadcasts. What ever happened to the few second delay in broadcasts to silence or bleep out such words?

I don't like the explanation becuase I don't want to see television full of people lobbing "f--king" around everywhere. In combination with "ass' (which is OK for TV these days), we may be close to watching a shows where one person can call someone a "f--king asshole". Is "sh-t" far behind?

Furthermore, if the FCC is cool with the use of the word "f--king", why am I going to such efforts to replace the "uc" with "--" in the "f--king" word here in this "f--king" forum?

It's allowed on cable, especially the premium channels.

[simonjames]

The F word has been used on British and Aussie TV for years - its not common and is generally only used for maximum effect and probably only after 8:30pm. I dare say someone who says the F word every second or third word (just because they're stupid) would be cut whereas it would be allowed in a drama scene.

[nvaughan3]

"don't like the explanation becuase I don't want to see television full of people lobbing "f--king" around everywhere"


SOLUTION: Either change the channel or lobby the network/cable channel producing the show to not allow it. STOP FORCING CENSORSHIP ON ME.