[tikki]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/1...ugh/index.html


His Statement from the radio show today:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/1...ent/index.html

I was listening live and it totally caught me off guard. Best wishes to a speedy recovery.

[typoon]

I agree I wish him a speedy recovery as well.

[macvillage.net]

Addiction to "Pain Medication" is typically just the tip of the iceburg.

Can't wait to read what else is screwed up with him.

I'm guessing either massive addictions (Coke perhaps)... Prostitutes, money issues.

This stuff always comes in pairs or tripplets. Never alone.

People don't just get addicted to medication. There's something that triggers it.

Almost the same for Alcohol. Normally acompanied by sexual issues, or gambling.

Tis sad. At least he's smart enough to get help.

[davesimondotcom]

His announcement was a surprise, but not a shock. Anyone who listens to him knows that he's had back problems and anyone who knows someone with similar back problems knows how bad the pain is.

What did shock me is how, not 5 minutes after his announcement, ABC news had already misconstrued his words into a partial admission of guilt on these criminal accusations.

My cousin, father and brother have all had severe back problems. My cousin recently had issues with the pain medication she was on. So I understand what Rush is going through.

I admire him for his statement about not being a victim or role model for the fact that he is fighting this. It reminded me of his statement when he announced his deafness. Then, as well, he didn't want to be a victim.

Some people won't understand that, but I do. Get well soon, Rush!

[davesimondotcom]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
People don't just get addicted to medication. There's something that triggers it.

Maybe having a certain amount of the population celebrating your announcement that you lost your hearing can trigger something like this.

Of course, that same segment of the population reveled in this announcement as well as last week's Rush related news.

One thing I can assure you, Rush doesn't have financial issues.

[iWrite]

...he lives here in my home town, Palm Beach, and the word here is that he's in some real hot water because (you heard it here first) apparently he has also written prescriptions for himself and that WILL get him busted -- big time.

If he enters rehab voluntarily and not through a pre-sentencing diversion program ordered by a judge he will look better in the eyes of the public as well as in court in front of prosecutors and a judge.

Honestly, wish the guy well. Had the same exact thing happen to me once (five years ago) and it's insidious...you don't realize how much you start to depend on drugs to get you through the day. I was lucky (or unlucky) because I never had to forge scrips because family members and friends are physicians and I would take turns getting a stash from each one of them so that no one really knew. After a while, the line between killing pain and dependence blurs completely. I didn't have to check into rehab but that was because I had the strength to deal with it and quit cold turkey. The hard thing is the first year afterwards when you automatically want that crutch of drugs to help you get through the day whether due to real or imaginary pain. Now, I don't need them and I can keep them in the house and not take them, but it took a long time and a lot of effort to get to this point.

The one thing I learned though? There is ALWAYS an underlying factor. For me it was my job -- too much stress. Had to change my lifestyle and the way I cope with things.

If anyone has an addiction they can beat it...they just need to believe they can.

[petehammer]

but vis a vis the drug issue before:

Originally posted by typoon:
This story is very coinsidental isn't it? A Former Maid. Why did she wait til now to come out with it if he did something illegal? THIS I'm NOT going to believe until there is substantial evidence. The National Enguirer? (SP) Sorry but I give them as much credibility as I would the Star or any of the other tabloids. Until something comes of it, it's nothing.

Originally posted by typoon:
Not only that isn't it curious about the timing of this? I mean it's a bit curious to me that if has a drug problem that it wouldn't have been reported a long time ago. It is Rush Limbaugh after all..

Do you believe now?

[The Mick]

It's too bad he has this addiction, at least he seems to be standing up to it, but he said he's failed at kicking the habit before. Hopefully this time his rehab will be successful. It certainly hasn't been a good two weeks for Rush. I can't stand the man, but I would never wish harm upon anyone, I much prefer public humiliation and embarrasment. I hope he gets well soon.

[moki]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Addiction to "Pain Medication" is typically just the tip of the iceburg.

Can't wait to read what else is screwed up with him.

In other words, you're wishing ill on the man. That's unfortunate.

I'm no fan of Rush; I used to listen years ago, but the show to me became the same thing repeated over and over again.

However, I think it's a bit abhorrent to be gleefully awaiting further bad news about him, or wish ill upon him.

His statement sounded reasonable:

"I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes. They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem.

[typoon]

Originally posted by petehammer:
but vis a vis the drug issue before:





Do you believe now?

Yes. Now that I've heard it from him I do. The other allegations from the maid I will believe once they sya they have found something or when Rush can talk about them. Until then whatever the maid said to me still came at a coincidental time.

[moki]

Originally posted by iWrite:
...he lives here in my home town, Palm Beach, and the word here is that he's in some real hot water because (you heard it here first) apparently he has also written prescriptions for himself and that WILL get him busted -- big time.

That's an interesting thought actually. He stated:

"Unfortunately, the surgery was unsuccessful and I continued to have severe pain in my lower back and also in my neck due to herniated discs. I am still experiencing that pain. Rather than opt for additional surgery for these conditions, I chose to treat the pain with prescribed medication. This medication turned out to be highly addictive.

Given that he still was experiencing pain, one wonders if he couldn't have gotten a legitimate prescription for the stuff. I'm guessing that painkillers are not something doctors like to write lifetime prescriptions for.

But what would you do if you had chronic pain? See relief by obtaining painkillers illegally or just grin and bear it, dealing with the pain every day of your life.

I'm sure there is more to this story than any of us knows currently, but still, it's an interesting situation.

[mr. natural]

Posted by macvillage.net:

"People don't just get addicted to medication. There's something that triggers it."

How about megalomania!

Sheesh. If I spewed as much spiteful rhetoric and B.S. as this egomanic has I'd be in pain too.

Any student of Greek history could of foreseen his downfall. Humans haven't changed much in 2000 years at all.

In my book, this ain't tragic, 'cuz he was no *hero* of mine. Just a big mouth jerk off.

I'll show him a little sympathy when he starts showing some toward all the folks he's demonized.

[typoon]

Originally posted by mr. natural:
How about megalomania!

Sheesh. If I spewed as much spiteful rhetoric and B.S. as this egomanic has I'd be in pain too.

Any student of Greek history could of foreseen his downfall. Humans haven't changed much in 2000 years at all.

In my book, this ain't tragic, 'cuz he was no *hero* of mine. Just a big mouth jerk off.

I'll show him a little sympathy when he starts showing some toward all the folks he's demonized.

Spiteful Rhetoric? I've heard more of that coming from Democrats and Liberals. Whatever

[mr. natural]

Posted by typhoon:

Spiteful Rhetoric? I've heard more of that coming from Democrats and Liberals. Whatever

"Femi-NAZI!"

Top that for spite!

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Addiction to "Pain Medication" is typically just the tip of the iceburg.

Can't wait to read what else is screwed up with him.

I'm guessing either massive addictions (Coke perhaps)... Prostitutes, money issues.

This stuff always comes in pairs or tripplets. Never alone.

People don't just get addicted to medication. There's something that triggers it.

Almost the same for Alcohol. Normally acompanied by sexual issues, or gambling.

Tis sad. At least he's smart enough to get help.

Where do you come up with this stuff? Go work in a rehab for a little while. It will become clear to you, quite quickly, that most people addicted to pain killers are ONLY addicted to pain killers. If they don't get treatment, they may move on to stronger opiates after the vicodin stops giving them what they need, but to say that people addicted to pain killers have addictions to coke and prostitutes is just ignorant.

Most people get addicted to them after having them prescribed to them by physicians for legitimate reasons. They are addictive, and most of these folks become addicted with out even realizing it's happening. Same thing with benzo addicts. Dr. Prescribes them, they take it like they are supposed to, until the Doc says no more, but then they feel like they can't function with out it, and next thing you know they are buying Xanax and Ativan off the street. Nothing more to it.

[typoon]

Originally posted by mr. natural:
"Femi-NAZI!"

Top that for spite!

Racist.
homophobe
Nazi
These are jsut some things that Democrats have called republicans. I think it is MUCH worse being called any of those in todays society than your one example. Besides Do you even know what that word means?

[nvaughan3]

People don't just get addicted to medication. There's something that triggers it.

its's called spinal surgery and herniated discs you schmuck!

[mo]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:

What did shock me is how, not 5 minutes after his announcement, ABC news had already misconstrued his words into a partial admission of guilt on these criminal accusations.

Are you talking about their website, or broadcast? All I see on the website is the same AP story everybody else ran, plus the transcript.

[davesimondotcom]

Originally posted by mr. natural:
"Femi-NAZI!"

Top that for spite!

Grow a sense of humor, mr. natural. Rush uses that term to describe very few people and he uses it to add humor to the program.

Sheesh.

You find that offensive, but probably don't mind "Rush is Reich" bumper stickers.

[davesimondotcom]

Originally posted by mo:
Are you talking about their website, or broadcast? All I see on the website is the same AP story everybody else ran, plus the transcript.

Broadcast - top of the hour newsbreak on radio, right after Rush's show.

[BRussell]

You gotta wish him the best. A coupla thoughts about larger issues:

1. Clearly this was not "The Left" demonizing Rush, as many conservatives have spun this.

2. I hope his situation demonstrates to conservatives that personal problems like drug addiction are not the result of personal weakness or degenerate character, they are mostly the result of situational factors that people have little control over.

[typoon]

Originally posted by BRussell:
You gotta wish him the best. A coupla thoughts about larger issues:

1. Clearly this was not "The Left" demonizing Rush, as many conservatives have spun this.

2. I hope his situation demonstrates to conservatives that personal problems like drug addiction are not the result of personal weakness or degenerate character, they are mostly the result of situational factors that people have little control over.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=35016
Ed Asner: 'Hannity's next ... just like we went after Limbaugh'

In the news this week are several reports of an exchange between syndicated talk-show host Mike Gallagher and Edward Asner.

The account goes like this: Mike Gallagher approached Asner at a recent cocktail party promoting the new film "Elf" in which Asner stars as Santa Claus. As Gallagher introduced himself, Asner asked his profession. When Gallagher replied "radio talk-show host," Asner replied, "I love going toe-to-toe with you guys.''

''I know,'' Gallagher replied. ''I've heard you on Sean Hannity's show.''

''Hannity's next, you know,'' Asner responded.

''Huh?'' said Gallagher.

''Hannity's next,'' said Asner. ''We're going after him just like we went after Limbaugh. And you saw what happened to Rush this week, right?''

[mo]

Originally posted by typoon:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=35016
Ed Asner: 'Hannity's next ... just like we went after Limbaugh'

In the news this week are several reports of an exchange between syndicated talk-show host Mike Gallagher and Edward Asner.

The account goes like this: Mike Gallagher approached Asner at a recent cocktail party promoting the new film "Elf" in which Asner stars as Santa Claus. As Gallagher introduced himself, Asner asked his profession. When Gallagher replied "radio talk-show host," Asner replied, "I love going toe-to-toe with you guys.''

''I know,'' Gallagher replied. ''I've heard you on Sean Hannity's show.''

''Hannity's next, you know,'' Asner responded.

''Huh?'' said Gallagher.

''Hannity's next,'' said Asner. ''We're going after him just like we went after Limbaugh. And you saw what happened to Rush this week, right?''

What the heck is World Net Daily?

[davesimondotcom]

Originally posted by mo:
What the heck is World Net Daily?

Right-leaning news source, similar to Newsmax.com.

Sort of the opposite of something like commonground.org.

[spacefreak]

Originally posted by BRussell:
Clearly this was not "The Left" demonizing Rush, as many conservatives have spun this.

Correct.

The demonization came one day before, with Wes Clark, Dean, & Co. demanding Rush's firing from ESPN. Democrat leaders were all over the airwaves - labeling him a bigot, racist, etc.

This (drug) issue alone would not have been so huge in the media had the liberals' full-blown denouncement of Rush for a sports opinion not "warmed-up" the airwaves.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

[BRussell]

Originally posted by typoon:
''Hannity's next,'' said Asner. ''We're going after him just like we went after Limbaugh. And you saw what happened to Rush this week, right?''

How could Ed Asner have given him back pain and then addicted him to narcotics?

[iWrite]

I have herniated disks in my lower back just above my tailbone. The pain is so bad that sometimes it makes me want to vomit -- literally -- and I have. It is excruciating pain. It is so bad that it feels like a burst appendix -- it radiates throughout my lower right abdomen and back.

It is VERY easy to become dependent on painkillers with pain like that.

Let me describe it: You take the drug (narcotic) because your back hurts like hell. Get up, drink some coffee, wash down a painkiller. Pretty soon your back stops hurting as bad and you feel warm all over and you start to feel pretty good about the day.

Several hours pass. You notice the pain is back and you feel irritable. Take another pain pill. Pain is gone and you feel better again.

It doesn't take long to get into that sort of a dependency...that turns into an addiction because soon you find that you NEED to take pill to get through various hours of the day not only because of the pain...

But because of the crummy "low" that you get when coming down off of a narcotic.

Also? I know from firsthand experience that when you're addicted to a painkiller that when you start to come down off of the high you get VERY tired. In order to stay away you take another pill -- it energizes you.

Along with addictions like he had come other problems. Feeling magnaminous or grandiose and overcalculating your abilities or attributes. I spent about $100K in one year on just shopping for various things...

I remember once I went out and bought every one of my close friends, 12 of them, brand new top of the line Palm PDAs. This kind of addiction leads a person to push aside normal common sense and reserve and be very carefree and cavalier about attitudes. I bought whatever I wanted -- for myself and everyone else. I gave away ridiculous tips in restaurants. Everyone chalks it up to "What a charismatic and nice person," when the truth is that you just don't care...the pills make you so happy that you want everyone else to feel as happy as you do.

Then you crash and want to sleep.

This goes on day after day after day...and you lose track.

It's a bad thing and beating this addiction of his transcends his class or political leanings or anything else he might be or might not be...we should all wish him well...along with other people who are going through the same thing.

The only thing that helped me was a wake up call: Went in for a routine check up and my liver enzymes were so high that they thought I must have liver cancer. Turns out that they were high from taking so many painkillers. Thank goodness, they're now back to normal, but for a while I thought I'd given myself chronic liver problems.

Anyway, just thought I'd share another perspective.

[icruise]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
Grow a sense of humor, mr. natural. Rush uses that term to describe very few people and he uses it to add humor to the program.

Sheesh.

My yes, that is hilarious.

[BlackGriffen]

Haven't read the thread. Just wanted to say: props to Limbaugh for having the intestinal fortitude to admit to his problem in public and seek help for it.

I wish him a thorough and permanent recovery.

BlackGriffen

P.S. Yes, I know that no addiction is ever cured permanently. This is something Rush will have to live with the for the rest of his life. What I am hoping is that he won't suffer a relapse.

[macvillage.net]

Originally posted by nvaughan3:
its's called spinal surgery and herniated discs you schmuck!

Reputable doctors make sure you get no more than necessary.

You don't build up to this on just medication for his injury.

Many people are on similar medications.

They become addicted to their dosage, but don't need to increase.

Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
Where do you come up with this stuff? Go work in a rehab for a little while. It will become clear to you, quite quickly, that most people addicted to pain killers are ONLY addicted to pain killers. If they don't get treatment, they may move on to stronger opiates after the vicodin stops giving them what they need, but to say that people addicted to pain killers have addictions to coke and prostitutes is just ignorant.

Most people get addicted to them after having them prescribed to them by physicians for legitimate reasons. They are addictive, and most of these folks become addicted with out even realizing it's happening. Same thing with benzo addicts. Dr. Prescribes them, they take it like they are supposed to, until the Doc says no more, but then they feel like they can't function with out it, and next thing you know they are buying Xanax and Ativan off the street. Nothing more to it.

Normal people get help well before that.

A reputable doctor gives you information on addictions, and in most cases follows up during treatment.

Yon don't just go out looking for more drugs without turning down treatment first... with a reputable doctor.



People who go this far, have something else. Perhaps it's serious personal problems.

But it's not a pure addiction to the medication. Especially not when you have the cash to go to a real doctor that would look out for your well being.

Doctors are very careful these days to keep an eye on how addicted you are to a substance, even wean you off regardless.. just to prevent this stuff.

You don't just get addicted to this stuff overnight.

[nvaughan3]

listen to iwrite. you could learn a thing or two. I say this as a still recovering addict myself of drugs.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
Reputable doctors make sure you get no more than necessary.

You don't build up to this on just medication for his injury.

Many people are on similar medications.

They become addicted to their dosage, but don't need to increase.


Normal people get help well before that.

A reputable doctor gives you information on addictions, and in most cases follows up during treatment.

Yon don't just go out looking for more drugs without turning down treatment first... with a reputable doctor.



People who go this far, have something else. Perhaps it's serious personal problems.

But it's not a pure addiction to the medication. Especially not when you have the cash to go to a real doctor that would look out for your well being.

Doctors are very careful these days to keep an eye on how addicted you are to a substance, even wean you off regardless.. just to prevent this stuff.

You don't just get addicted to this stuff overnight.

As I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. Go work in a mental health/substance abuse and see what it's really like, instead of just making stuff up. Reputable doctors cut off the supply when they feel people are running the risk of addiction. When that happens, people go and seek it elsewhere. They don't want to admit they have a problem, they just rationalize it as "I just need it a little longer". Please fo not try and speak with authority on a subject you obviously no nothing about. You are trying to state your opinions as fact. find me some linkage to back up those opinions if you want to contiune this, or start your posts with "In my opinion..."

[davesimondotcom]

Originally posted by BRussell:
How could Ed Asner have given him back pain and then addicted him to narcotics?

Ed's been a pain in the neck for ages.

[iWrite]

ThinkInsane is right: You get drugs where you can.

I remember keeping a "drug journal" of where I'd requested painkillers (whom) and when. Because, I didn't want to trip up and ask one person too quickly for a refill. So, I staggered them: Got one prescription one week from one person, another from a second person, another from a third person, and the last from the fourth person. That way, each one thought that I was only getting one month's worth of medication to last 30 days -- but you'd take the month's worth in a week.

You also stagger the pharmacies because smart pharmacists will figure out what is going on pretty quick -- so you have to go to different drug stores and avoid chain drugstores because they might have the same database and your name will show up in there.

Really desperate people go to emergency rooms over and over again trying to get drugs. When that doesn't work anymore then they get them from friends, etc. I never got to that point, but I can understand how some people do get to that point -- even to the point where they're willing to commit crimes to get their drugs.

The thing that legitimizes it is that voice in your ear, "I have a bad pain, such bad pain, they just don't understand it...no one understands it."

It's difficult to separate what is real pain and what is not.

Anyway, I still have pain (quite a lot of pain) but I don't take anything for it at all. What I do instead is go to sleep.

People who haven't had an addiction just don't understand. Strong narcotics give you the feeling that you can beat pain, accomplish anything, and overcome any problem you have -- but it's all a fantasy.

Rush needs to overcome his addiction because he has a big mess to clean up, personally and legally and professionally, and he will need all of his sensibilities to cope with the problems he has.

One thing that tells me that he has a problem? One of the most common serious side effects of extended narcotic abuse is autoimmune hearing disorder -- loss of hearing due to your autoimmune system attacking and destroying the inner ear. I learned about that though I didn't have it. However, remember how Rush just lost his hearing out of the blue? He had to have a cochlear implant put in. That is a clue to me that he has had this for a very long time.

[BRussell]

Originally posted by davesimondotcom:
Ed's been a pain in the neck for ages.

This is why you tick me off simon. Every time I'm getting ready for a good fight you have to go and crack me up with a joke, spoiling everything.

[bracken]

Like Rush gives a sh!t about what a bunch of computer geeks think about him.

[Gee-Man]

Originally posted by BRussell:
You gotta wish him the best. A coupla thoughts about larger issues:

1. Clearly this was not "The Left" demonizing Rush, as many conservatives have spun this.

2. I hope his situation demonstrates to conservatives that personal problems like drug addiction are not the result of personal weakness or degenerate character, they are mostly the result of situational factors that people have little control over.

Well said. Unfortunately, Rush has a well-documented history of criticizing people who were in positions similar to his in the past. I honestly wish him well, though - I've had friends who got addicted to pain killers, and I know this is not something you'd wish on anybody, regardless of how you feel about their political POV.

[Gee-Man]

Originally posted by bracken:
Like Rush gives a sh!t about what a bunch of computer geeks think about him.

Excuse me, those are Star Wars geeks, not computer geeks. Get your geeks straight.

[MacGorilla]

Well. I don't agree with what the man says or even like him but I do wish him a speedy recovery.

[dampeoples]

While I sympathize with the man, I find it disturbing that nobody seems to give a rats ass about these problems until someone famous gets in the news for it.
Hats off to Mr. iWrite, and all the others, i've beat painkillers twice myself, and cocaine once. Get to know your family, it's all you've got most times.

[ThinkInsane]

Originally posted by dampeoples:
While I sympathize with the man, I find it disturbing that nobody seems to give a rats ass about these problems until someone famous gets in the news for it.
Hats off to Mr. iWrite, and all the others, i've beat painkillers twice myself, and cocaine once. Get to know your family, it's all you've got most times.

Although 'Mister' iWrite may well deserve a hat's off, that's 'Missus' iWrite posting above...

[iWrite]

LOL!

"Missus iWrite!"

The odd thing is that if someone were to say to me, "Do you do drugs?" I would automatically say no. I've never smoked weed (though I have friends who do or have), or done any other illegal "street" drugs, and I don't drink much alcohol and I've never smoked a cigarette. Because a physician prescribes drugs it tends to validate taking narcotics -- it's a weird concept I know.

Anyway, the first step towards fixing the problems is saying, "Wow, I've got a problem." Who knows what prompted Rush Limbaugh to come out and admit this. I wonder how long it would have taken him if his housekeeper hadn't come forward to out him (for money, I might add -- $200K apparently)?

People have varying degrees of problems. Some people like to eat. Some people like to shop. Some people like to shoplift. Anything that is done to the point where it is illegal or overdone is just bad. A friend of mine is a shopper. She shops constantly -- she is on the verge of a divorce with her husband because she shops compulsively. She doesn't pay bills so that she has shopping money. I won't go shopping with her because I'm not a shopper, really, but also because I don't like to watch her commit actions that I know are self-destructive. She and her husband are on the edge of divorce and bankruptcy and still she cannot stop...it's sick. Obviously, she has a problem.

There are a lot of problems that are similar.

[thunderous_funker]

“[He’s] another dead drug addict.”
- Rush Limbaugh on Jerry Garcia, 8/11/95

“There’s nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up. What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we’re not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.”
- Rush Limbaugh show, Oct. 5, 1995

“I want to let you read along with me a quote from Jerry Colangelo about substance abuse, and I think you’ll find that he’s very much right…‘I know every expert in the world will disagree with me, but I don’t buy into the disease part of it. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that.’... What he’s saying is that if there’s a line of cocaine here, I have to make the choice to go down and sniff it….And his point is that we are rationalizing all this irresponsibility and all the choices people are making and we’re blaming not them, but society for it. All these Hollywood celebrities say the reason they’re weird and bizarre is because they were abused by their parents. So we’re going to pay for that kind of rehab, too, and we shouldn’t. It’s not our responsibility. It’s up to the people who are doing it. And Colangelo is right. We’ve got more - right after this.”
- Rush Limbaugh, 9/23/93


It will be interesting to watch the system that Rush blasts for being soft on drug addicts go soft on Rush the drug addict.

Yep. If you're famous in America, you never reap what you sow.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by macvillage.net:
This stuff always comes in pairs or tripplets. Never alone.

People don't just get addicted to medication. There's something that triggers it.

Almost the same for Alcohol. Normally acompanied by sexual issues, or gambling.

This is bullshit.

Sorry, but no two ways about it: just plain bullshit.

-s*

[zigzag]

Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
“[He’s] another dead drug addict.”
- Rush Limbaugh on Jerry Garcia, 8/11/95

I think there was an additional line in that quote about how people admire Jerry Garcia even though he used drugs and that therefore our priorities are all wrong. I wasn't a big Dead fan but I'd say that Garcia had more talent than Limbaugh.

It was also reported that not long ago, he was pontificating about how people who really need Oxycontin are hurt by those who use it illegally.

I feel for Limbaugh as an individual and don't believe that he (or Garcia) belong in prison, I only hope that this teaches him some humility.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by BRussell:
1. Clearly this was not "The Left" demonizing Rush, as many conservatives have spun this.

yes, but I won't hold my breath for those same people apologizing for demonizing the "left liberal media conspiracy". In fact, if ANY of the people on this board making the claim this was a leftist media conspiracy will now admit that the media was reporting the situation fairly and accurately, I'll probably be too surprised to respond.

[Spliffdaddy]

It was a leftwing conspiracy.

The timing of the 'news' sorta gave that away, don't you think?

There is nothing illegal about being addicted to drugs - and certainly nothing newsworthy.

Fairly and accurately?

nope.

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
It was a leftwing conspiracy.

The timing of the 'news' sorta gave that away, don't you think?

There is nothing illegal about being addicted to drugs - and certainly nothing newsworthy.

Fairly and accurately?

nope.

QED

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Lerkfish:
QED

Sad, and almost painful to see, no?

-s*

[Lerkfish]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Sad, and almost painful to see, no?

-s*

well, good thing I didn't hold my breath.