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Zimphire · Oct 16, 2003, 09:29 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100234,00.html

What a asshat.

tracheopterix · Oct 16, 2003, 09:34 AM

wow. anyways everyone know that the free masons rule the world. also the templars and rosicrucians...
rrrrrr, darn rosicrucians

for real though that's scary.

wulf · Oct 16, 2003, 09:38 AM

Well, clearly not - although there is a powerful Jewish lobby in the US.

Have to say though, Zimph, you sure do have a knack for those contentious topic subjects

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 09:47 AM

Isn't he actually right about that though? Still an asshat, but technically correct.

But then who cares if Jews rule the World? Not me. Not unless they take my Macs away. Then there'd be trouble.

Zimphire · Oct 16, 2003, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by wulf:
Well, clearly not - although there is a powerful Jewish lobby in the US.

Have to say though, Zimph, you sure do have a knack for those contentious topic subjects

I am just amazed at what some believe.

And equally amazed that so far 3 people in here agree.

Well maybe not TOO amazed.

scottiB · Oct 16, 2003, 09:48 AM

Bow to ZOG.

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
Isn't he actually right about that though? Still an asshat, but technically correct.

But then who cares if Jews rule the World? Not me. Not unless they take my Macs away. Then there'd be trouble.

Now that was scary. Post count hit 777 with that post.

tracheopterix · Oct 16, 2003, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I am just amazed at what some believe.

And equally amazed that so far 3 people in here agree.

Well maybe not TOO amazed.

if you've listed me among the three, I contend. I meant it's scary what some believe, not that the jews are ruling us by proxy.

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I am just amazed at what some believe.

And equally amazed that so far 3 people in here agree.

Well maybe not TOO amazed.

Who owns democratic opinion? The press.

Who owns the press? Yep.

Mars_Attacks · Oct 16, 2003, 09:59 AM

I guess the Germans didn't finish the job, he's impling it's now up to the muslems.

I guess muslems aren't racist.

lil'babykitten · Oct 16, 2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
I guess the Germans didn't finish the job, he's impling it's now up to the muslems.

You seem to lack reading comprehension skills.

Doesn't surprise me.

Logic · Oct 16, 2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
I guess the Germans didn't finish the job, he's impling it's now up to the muslems.

I guess muslems aren't racist.

He is?

Why don't you just go back to your neo-nazi forum where people are more like you?

At least he didn't say that he would want more than a billion people slaughtered like you did...........

eklipse · Oct 16, 2003, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
I guess the Germans didn't finish the job, he's impling it's now up to the muslems.

I guess muslems aren't racist.

What's a muslem?

Eug · Oct 16, 2003, 10:06 AM

Wrong forum.

tracheopterix · Oct 16, 2003, 10:07 AM

This is a great example of thinking about things in the wrong way.

Mahathir added that "1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews," but he suggested using political and economic tactics instead of violence.

It is always easier to see things as them versus us. When the Dalai Lama spoke a few weeks back on central park one of the things that really made sense in his speech was whe he said that the 'them versus us' type thinking is outdated. In the world now we are very interdependent and it can no longer be mistaken that another's failure can mean our victory.

Sure there are groups with lots of power out there, but to think that by defeating them we gain is shortsighted.

Uday's Carcass · Oct 16, 2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by tracheopterix:
This is a great example of thinking about things in the wrong way.

It is always easier to see things as them versus us. When the Dalai Lama spoke a few weeks back on central park one of the things that really made sense in his speech was whe he said that the 'them versus us' type thinking is outdated. In the world now we are very interdependent and it can no longer be mistaken that another's failure can mean our victory.

Sure there are groups with lots of power out there, but to think that by defeating them we gain is shortsighted.

That's a very tasty Pie in the Sky you have there. Too bad it's not reality.

voodoo · Oct 16, 2003, 10:17 AM

This thread should be locked. Not moved. For obvious reasons.

lil'babykitten · Oct 16, 2003, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by voodoo:
This thread should be locked. Not moved. For obvious reasons.

as should the duplicate thread that exists in the Politics Lounge.

Mars_Attacks · Oct 16, 2003, 10:24 AM

"For well over half a century we have fought over Palestine. What have we achieved? Nothing. We are worse off than before," he said. "If we had paused to think, then we could have devised a plan, a strategy that can win us final victory."

Sounds like violence aginst Jews to me.

daimoni · 10:04 AM

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lil'babykitten · Oct 16, 2003, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Sounds like violence aginst Jews to me.

Yup, bad reading comprehension skills. Your quote demonstrates this further.

eklipse · Oct 16, 2003, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Sounds like violence aginst Jews to me.

'Israeli oppressors/terrorists', not 'Jews' - there is a difference.

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by daimoni:
Wrong. And wrong.

Offer the correct answers then.

daimoni · 10:04 AM

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Logic · Oct 16, 2003, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Sounds like violence aginst Jews to me.

Learn how to read.

He says that that fight hasn't helped them achieve anything. Another method is needed.

And please, go back to the neo-nazi forum where you hang out most of the time. Especially if you don't have the balls to say the same things here as you do there.

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by daimoni:
Suck my dick, then.

Hand me the tweezers then.

tracheopterix · Oct 16, 2003, 10:35 AM

why not discuss this important topic without insulting each other? y'all can't stand any critisism or alternate thinking? if you don't have the ability to calmly weigh another opinion you shouldn't be 'debating' in the first place.

also why lock this thread? I can see locking it if it breaks down to complete silliness, but there is still hope for rationality.

daimoni · 10:04 AM

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Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Fozzie:
Because it's in the WRONG FORUM. And this thread is filled with ****ing muppets.

You mean people requesting sex when they're asked to offer the correct answers to questions when they've disagreed with the original observations?

Zimphire · Oct 16, 2003, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Logic:
He is?

Why don't you just go back to your neo-nazi forum where people are more like you?

At least he didn't say that he would want more than a billion people slaughtered like you did...........

What forum is that?

Do you think one person speaks for the whole forum?

Zimphire · Oct 16, 2003, 10:46 AM

This thread wasn't made in a attack against Muslims. This guy is obviously just a wacko.

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
What forum is that?

Don't worry about it Zimph. Logic appears to have that bit of text in a Text Clipping for dropping in when anyone has the slightest disagreement about Islam. I've seen him use it before.

lil'babykitten · Oct 16, 2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
This thread wasn't made in a attack against Muslims. This guy is obviously just a wacko.

Even though this 'wacko' is the same guy that recently called for a peaceful Islam?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/3179426.stm

daimoni · 10:05 AM

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lil'babykitten · Oct 16, 2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
've seen him use it before.

......which was in response to the same asshole.

daimoni · 10:05 AM

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djjava · Oct 16, 2003, 10:55 AM

1/10th of 1 percent of the world population is Jewish... hardly ruling anything.

Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Fozzie:
I already provided you with the correct answer the first time. Reread my post.

The word "wrong" isn't an answer.

Originally posted by Fozzie:
No need to pluck your eyebrows with tweezers first.

Class. I'll give ya that one.

daimoni · 10:06 AM

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Sherwin · Oct 16, 2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Fozzie:
It was a Boolean expression. You have heard of those, haven't you?

Are those the jobbies which require external values and parameters to make their existence meaningful?

BlackGriffen · Oct 16, 2003, 11:40 AM

As a member of the Illuminati, I can vouch that the answer is no.

BlackGriffen

Edit: Oh, $hit, I wasn't supposed to post that!

RooneyX · 12:00 PM

Racist conspiracy theories used by WASPS to conceal their misdemeanors and blame them on others. Name me a single Jewish American President or Pentagon Hawk. Name me a single Jewish empire in history.

OK, now as for Freemasons, I've got friends and relatives who are Masons and let me tell you they can't even rule their kitchens. At lodge meetings the most sinister talk that ever occurs is chat about which football team is the best. It's just a money club. Put some money in the kitty and if you need help later they'll find someone who can help you in your job. You don't have to be Jewish to be a Mason and it didn't start with Judaism. There are many such clubs in the world from the Boy Scouts all the way up to the Mile High Club.

Illuminati is Italian for the Enlightenment. These are the rationalists who brought us science and the arts, but most importantly they formed the democracies we cherish and also were instrumental in the separation of church and state. They were almost entirely non-denominational, most of them agnostic or liberal Christians.

Rosicrucians were a Christian cult that many conspiracy theory writers make money out of by selling their quack books with theories ranging from Jesus' son living on in France to a reptilian race from Sirius who rule the world from under New York. All bullshit. So are the Rosicrucians.

It's all crap. If anyone rules the world it's the Chinese and Indians who together make up half the world's population and provide a massive workforce. If they gave up working the global economy would collapse. That's how much power they have, both in terms of financial and labor power (and I'm also counting those living outside China and India).

Now these Muslims, I don't mind being rude to them because they have a history of prejudice and invading other people's lands, openly conspire and openly say people should become Muslim or that Islam will rule the world. How stupid is that? And in the mean time what have they been doing apart from covering women, killing not only non-Muslims but each other too, and extolling isolationism? It's their fault foreigners have been able to exploit them because they are lazy and selfish. Once they wake up from their Allah daydream they'll be able to integrate properly with others and some of these stupid conspiracy theories can finally be laid to rest.

Just ask them, when did a Jew ever ask a Muslim to convert to Judaism?

AutoJC · Oct 16, 2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by Logic:
Learn how to read.

He says that that fight hasn't helped them achieve anything. Another method is needed.

What other method?

This dude rejects a capitalist approach to dealing with others. What alternatives has he ever offered?

He's a Jew-hater, plain and simple.

Spliffdaddy · Oct 16, 2003, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
You mean people requesting sex when they're asked to offer the correct answers to questions when they've disagreed with the original observations?

A blowjob isn't* sex.

Just ask Bill Clinton.

*it depends on what the definition of 'is' is.

thunderous_funker · Oct 16, 2003, 12:29 PM

This thread remeinds me why I'm not a humanist.

Logic · Oct 16, 2003, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
What forum is that?

Do you think one person speaks for the whole forum?

You know very well what forum I'm talking about. And no one person does not speak for the whole forum but when everyone seemed to agree with him one can use an educated guess what the general opinion is on that forum.

Logic · Oct 16, 2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
Don't worry about it Zimph. Logic appears to have that bit of text in a Text Clipping for dropping in when anyone has the slightest disagreement about Islam. I've seen him use it before.

Look, AutoJC, Zimph and M_A hang out at anohter forum and plan these things. They spout their racist agenda there and then come back here to continue their trolling. And the reason I "attack" M_A is this(there are more like these but I'll let this do for now).

And the problem is that most of the disagreements about islam are because people are ignorant about islam. Should I just sit idle by and let people continue to wander in ignorance or should I try to enlighten people?

Logic · Oct 16, 2003, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by AutoJC:
What other method?

This dude rejects a capitalist approach to dealing with others. What alternatives has he ever offered?

He's a Jew-hater, plain and simple.

What other method? Dialogue, negotiations, and other peaceful methods perhaps.

And the rest of your post I'll just ignore. Are you having fun over at the neo-nazi forum?

daimoni · 10:09 AM

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Spliffdaddy · Oct 16, 2003, 12:53 PM

Well, Logic,
you should continue to try to enlighten people.
There ARE a lot of misconceptions regarding every religion.
For what it's worth, you've taught me quite a lot about Islam.